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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 16 Oct 22 6.21pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

That was a £65-£300 billion call he got right- pity the british pm knew better!

Funny how a Labour voter suddenly cares about economics.....you're Irish anyway and shouldn't be here.

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

.....you're Irish anyway and shouldn't be here.

Shouldn't be where ?

 

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Originally posted by glazedallover

Shouldn't be where ?

The three thirty at Kempton.

 


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Hilarious SS.

 

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Originally posted by glazedallover

Hilarious SS.

Tips hat.

 


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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 16 Oct 22 8.06pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Funny how a Labour voter suddenly cares about economics.....you're Irish anyway and shouldn't be here.

 

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View Maine Eagle's Profile Maine Eagle Flag USA 17 Oct 22 4.09am Send a Private Message to Maine Eagle Add Maine Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

He would be if you only ask democrats

No, Trump is losing swathes of conservatives hand over fist since 2020. This is his problem in Georgia, and around the country.

You have probably noticed that democrats never liked Donald Trump, his problem since he lost the last election is with shedding large numbers of republicans and independents.

He will run again because he needs attention and love like a puppy, and he will lose again, but this time by a far bigger margin.

 


Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

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I must admit that I have never really followed Russiagate that closely other than to tease a certain poster about when Trump will be prosecuted "any day now any day".

Anyway I hadn't realised that this all started with Hilary.

"Mr Steele, a former British spy, was hired to compile the dossier by Washington DC-based research firm Fusion GPS, which was itself retained by a law firm on behalf of Mr Trump's political opponents, Hillary Clinton, the Democratic candidate in the 2016 election, and the Democratic National Committee. "


Anyway although this was a politically motivated dossier and key people lied, well apparently they are not guilty of lying.

[Link]

 


One more point

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View Lombardinho's Profile Lombardinho Flag London 19 Oct 22 12.02pm Send a Private Message to Lombardinho Add Lombardinho as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I must admit that I have never really followed Russiagate that closely other than to tease a certain poster about when Trump will be prosecuted "any day now any day".

Anyway I hadn't realised that this all started with Hilary.

"Mr Steele, a former British spy, was hired to compile the dossier by Washington DC-based research firm Fusion GPS, which was itself retained by a law firm on behalf of Mr Trump's political opponents, Hillary Clinton, the Democratic candidate in the 2016 election, and the Democratic National Committee. "


Anyway although this was a politically motivated dossier and key people lied, well apparently they are not guilty of lying.

[Link]

So the liars found not guilty of lying by a judge who, chances are, is also a liar.

 

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Originally posted by Badger11

I must admit that I have never really followed Russiagate that closely other than to tease a certain poster about when Trump will be prosecuted "any day now any day".

Anyway I hadn't realised that this all started with Hilary.

"Mr Steele, a former British spy, was hired to compile the dossier by Washington DC-based research firm Fusion GPS, which was itself retained by a law firm on behalf of Mr Trump's political opponents, Hillary Clinton, the Democratic candidate in the 2016 election, and the Democratic National Committee. "


Anyway although this was a politically motivated dossier and key people lied, well apparently they are not guilty of lying.

[Link]

Politically motivated? Probably and obviously not good if true.

Key testimony untrue? Also bad and those who lied should be punished for contempt. However, it depends on whether their system applies the "fruits of the poison tree" principle which is important in US jurisprudence. One piece of evidence taints the whole case. In this country we do not apply that sweeping clearance of a whole case because one bit (or some bits) of evidence was fabricated. The corrupted stuff is severed from the admissible evidence and the case rests on what is left. Thus...

The case is proven based on non-tainted evidence as more likely than not to have occurred. Bang to rights regardless of the above.

(I should stress that is not my view as I have no clue if the allegations in the US (or, indeed, here for Brexit) are true.)

 

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Originally posted by Badger11

I must admit that I have never really followed Russiagate that closely other than to tease a certain poster about when Trump will be prosecuted "any day now any day".

Anyway I hadn't realised that this all started with Hilary.

"Mr Steele, a former British spy, was hired to compile the dossier by Washington DC-based research firm Fusion GPS, which was itself retained by a law firm on behalf of Mr Trump's political opponents, Hillary Clinton, the Democratic candidate in the 2016 election, and the Democratic National Committee. "


Anyway although this was a politically motivated dossier and key people lied, well apparently they are not guilty of lying.

[Link]

Corruption in justice.

The US continues its inevitable fall.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Oct 2022 1.45pm)

 


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Originally posted by Badger11

I must admit that I have never really followed Russiagate that closely other than to tease a certain poster about when Trump will be prosecuted "any day now any day".

Anyway I hadn't realised that this all started with Hilary.

"Mr Steele, a former British spy, was hired to compile the dossier by Washington DC-based research firm Fusion GPS, which was itself retained by a law firm on behalf of Mr Trump's political opponents, Hillary Clinton, the Democratic candidate in the 2016 election, and the Democratic National Committee. "


Anyway although this was a politically motivated dossier and key people lied, well apparently they are not guilty of lying.

[Link]

It can also be seen as an investigation by responsible politicians, initially the Republican "never Trumpers" and later the Democrats, into credible rumours, which was handed to the FBI, who were conducting their own investigation. The material it contained corroborated the FBI's own findings.

The appointment of special counsel John Durham to investigate this was made at the behest of Trump in 2019, as a way to deflect attention from him, and to try to discredit it. That was truly a political act!

Durham has turned up nothing at all of any consequence. Some minor irregularities. This was the last prosecution to fail, but not the first. It resulted in the D o J distancing itself from some of it's own witnesses!

The conclusion has to be that the Steele dossier has been shown to be reliable and it's use by Mueller justified.

Whether Trump ever gets skewered by any of it's contents remains unknown. Sticking skewers into an eel as slippery as Trump tends to be difficult.

Nevertheless old eels tend to stink more than younger, more attractive ones, so start to become less appealing.

 

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