Are you comparing yourself to a Neanderthal? Really?

We are all homo sapiens whether we now live in Europe, Africa, Asia, Australasia or the melting pot of the Americas. We won't be replaced.

I clearly understand extrapolation much better than you do. All you do is simple maths, without any attempt at extrapolation of context or meaning.

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The effect of time on personal matters isn't the same as societal changes. We all age and we die. That's life. Brexit was a result of a democratic vote - the changes in our society aren't anybody's choice.

This just isn't true and the evidence base that it isn't true is world wide.

Most of the world isn't going though these dramatic changes and that includes first world countries as well.

What is happening in Europe is entirely a political choice and even Europe contains countries that have refused the replacement like Poland and Hungary.

This argument that you must accept what's happening flies in the face of how they react to Brexit....a democratic decision straight from a majority of the people.

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This is a distortion. We are neither Poland, nor, thank goodness, Hungary. Both countries are though members of the EU which does fully understand and support the need to accept refugees and other migrants. So there is already pressure from the EU for both to comply with their obligations, which will only increase. So, eventually, they will have to fall in line or fall out of the EU. That they are currently resisting is down to the type of society that remains in both at the moment, stubbornly conservative with significant religious influence. That will change. We have already, as has the rest of Europe.

Poland and Hungary are out of step with us and they will, eventually, get in line. There is no chance of the others getting in step with them. Progress doesn't go backwards.

Poland and Hungary, like us with Brexit, are being hampered by the impact of populism on reality and common sense. They may not actually see a heavy demand placed on them because they aren't attractive destinations for migrants, but they will be required to remove the barriers.

So this is only an example of heel-dragging, which is entirely to be expected. It's no more evidence of an alternative path than was King Canute shouting at the tide. This tide is only flowing one way.

Many parts of the world won't be experiencing these kinds of changes because we aren't them. People are attracted to where there is work, security, a welcome and a need. That's though very different to suggesting it's only politics that are responsible. It's much more than that.

Brexit was a decision taken democratically by an elected government, against its collective better judgement. In my opinion that represents the most profound failure of our democracy in my lifetime. Now that the detrimental impact is more widely understood the chances of it being reversed grow stronger by the day. I trust those who welcomed Brexit as a success for democracy will be as happy when that reversal happens.

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This is the funniest of your posts for a long time.

Maybe I am too, because I disagree. I don't think the point exists.

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