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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 23 Jan 21 12.00pm
Originally posted by kevlee He loved the club so much he destroyed it to line his own pockets. Agreed it took an idiot like Mark Goldberg to help him do it. Mark's problem was that he was a Palace fan with stars in his eyes and not enough money to own a football club. Noades used his retained ownership of the ground as a pawn in his pursuit of personal gain. It took years of pain to get over the damage hes did to the club. Too many rose tinted glasses being worn I'm afraid. The only thing Ron was interested in was himself. For avoidance of doubt I am not in need to having to wear spectacles but if I did I would be more than content that my roseate view reflected the achievements of Ron Noades at our club.
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South coast - west of Brighton. 23 Jan 21 12.00pm

Originally posted by kevlee

He loved the club so much he destroyed it to line his own pockets. Agreed it took an idiot like Mark Goldberg to help him do it. Mark's problem was that he was a Palace fan with stars in his eyes and not enough money to own a football club. Noades used his retained ownership of the ground as a pawn in his pursuit of personal gain. It took years of pain to get over the damage hes did to the club.
Too many rose tinted glasses being worn I'm afraid. The only thing Ron was interested in was himself.

For avoidance of doubt I am not in need to having to wear spectacles but if I did I would be more than content that my roseate view reflected the achievements of Ron Noades at our club.

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nead1 23 Jan 21 12.14pm
I completely agree with your observations Willo. If I recall correctly, Goldberg didn't have enough funds to complete the deal including the ground; hence Noades holding onto it made sense for both parties at the time. Fortunately, it was all resolved with the very savvy acquisition by the 2010 consortium. �10m was the price I seem to recall - what a big multiple it would be today!
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nead1

23 Jan 21 12.14pm

I completely agree with your observations Willo.

If I recall correctly, Goldberg didn't have enough funds to complete the deal including the ground; hence Noades holding onto it made sense for both parties at the time. Fortunately, it was all resolved with the very savvy acquisition by the 2010 consortium. �10m was the price I seem to recall - what a big multiple it would be today!

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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 23 Jan 21 12.29pm
Say whatever you like about Noades,but he was chairman during our most successful ever spell. That said, his wife was apparently a whor@. "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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Tom-the-eagle

Croydon 23 Jan 21 12.29pm

Say whatever you like about Noades,but he was chairman during our most successful ever spell.

That said, his wife was apparently a whor@.

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 23 Jan 21 12.32pm
I like the way we only debate the current issues on here. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 23 Jan 21 12.32pm

I like the way we only debate the current issues on here.

Red and Blue Army!

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Spiderman Horsham 23 Jan 21 1.08pm
Originally posted by Badger11 I saw this on the club website so thought I would repost. Back in the day I used to sit near him he was always ready to talk to fans. For some he is a hate figure I never understood that I thought he was a good chairman and prior to our current guy our most successful one. [Link] Met him at Gatwick once, he was travelling back with his wife. Happy to chat all things Palace. It was just after Dougie took over from Burley RN:� they got rid of the alcoholic and replaced him with the cheap option�. Seemed really nice and his wife was lovely. If anyone has read �Woodie and Nord� GS can�t speak highly enough of the Noades�s Edited by Spiderman (23 Jan 2021 1.08pm)
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Spiderman

Horsham 23 Jan 21 1.08pm

Originally posted by Badger11

I saw this on the club website so thought I would repost.

Back in the day I used to sit near him he was always ready to talk to fans.

For some he is a hate figure I never understood that I thought he was a good chairman and prior to our current guy our most successful one.

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Met him at Gatwick once, he was travelling back with his wife. Happy to chat all things Palace. It was just after Dougie took over from Burley RN:� they got rid of the alcoholic and replaced him with the cheap option�. Seemed really nice and his wife was lovely. If anyone has read �Woodie and Nord� GS can�t speak highly enough of the Noades�s

Edited by Spiderman (23 Jan 2021 1.08pm)

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Lawrie Brooks Green (near Horsham) 23 Jan 21 1.16pm
Like many thousands of others I queued for hours at �stupid o/clock� to get my cup final ticket in 1990. Ron Noades came out of the club and walked down the queue chatting to every one that he could. He went up in my estimation that day. He had his faults, let�s face it, who doesn�t? But he did a hell of a lot for our club. We should be thankful.
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Brooks Green (near Horsham) 23 Jan 21 1.16pm

Like many thousands of others I queued for hours at �stupid o/clock� to get my cup final ticket in 1990. Ron Noades came out of the club and walked down the queue chatting to every one that he could.
He went up in my estimation that day.
He had his faults, let�s face it, who doesn�t?
But he did a hell of a lot for our club.
We should be thankful.

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jeeagles 23 Jan 21 1.41pm
Every club he owned was thrown to the dogs when he left them. Struck gold with Coppell and Wright. He had several opportunities in the 90's to really push the club on, but chose to line his pockets every time. Its took 12 years and two administrations to recover from the Goldberg deal. Business men operation at that kind of level always appear to be friendly, caring, and approachable. Just look how Levy is portrayed on the Spurs documentary. Really they are ruthless, narcissistic, self interested c***s. Sometimes having them works to your advantage, but they should never be trusted.
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jeeagles

23 Jan 21 1.41pm

Every club he owned was thrown to the dogs when he left them.

Struck gold with Coppell and Wright. He had several opportunities in the 90's to really push the club on, but chose to line his pockets every time.

Its took 12 years and two administrations to recover from the Goldberg deal.

Business men operation at that kind of level always appear to be friendly, caring, and approachable. Just look how Levy is portrayed on the Spurs documentary. Really they are ruthless, narcissistic, self interested c***s. Sometimes having them works to your advantage, but they should never be trusted.

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AERO 23 Jan 21 1.58pm
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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 23 Jan 21 1.59pm
Originally posted by Lawrie Like many thousands of others I queued for hours at �stupid o/clock� to get my cup final ticket in 1990. Ron Noades came out of the club and walked down the queue chatting to every one that he could. He went up in my estimation that day. He had his faults, let�s face it, who doesn�t? But he did a hell of a lot for our club. We should be thankful. I�m tempted to agree mate "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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Tom-the-eagle

Croydon 23 Jan 21 1.59pm

Originally posted by Lawrie

I�m tempted to agree mate

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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kevlee born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 23 Jan 21 2.32pm
Originally posted by nead1 I completely agree with your observations Willo. If I recall correctly, Goldberg didn't have enough funds to complete the deal including the ground; hence Noades holding onto it made sense for both parties at the time. Fortunately, it was all resolved with the very savvy acquisition by the 2010 consortium. �10m was the price I seem to recall - what a big multiple it would be today! Goldberg was told he was being shafted, and sadly ignored the advice. The rest is history. I never met Noades and I do not dispute any stories about him talking to fans. As I said, when he didn't like what we were saying in the ground he threw us out. I did however meet Simon Jordan in around 2005 in a hotel bar through a mutual friend. For those with short memories, this was at the time that Noades was suing Palace for money that he said he was owed under the lease of the ground. He wanted to squeeze the pips out. Jordan's opinion of Noades was, unsurprising, low. A torrent of abuse. Noades then sold the freehold for �12m in 2007 to investors who wanted to try and develop houses on it. Noades couldn't have cared less if they succeeded or not. We only managed to buy in 2010 because the owning company went bust and the administrators off loaded it to us for �10m. I don't dispute the (mixed) success on the pitch as during this period before I had kids I went to almost every game, but as some saviour of Palace with "Palace til I die" etched in his bones - no. At the end of the day he couldn't give a s*** what happened to the club. Following Palace since 25 Feb 1978
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kevlee

born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 23 Jan 21 2.32pm

Originally posted by nead1

I completely agree with your observations Willo.

If I recall correctly, Goldberg didn't have enough funds to complete the deal including the ground; hence Noades holding onto it made sense for both parties at the time. Fortunately, it was all resolved with the very savvy acquisition by the 2010 consortium. �10m was the price I seem to recall - what a big multiple it would be today!

Goldberg was told he was being shafted, and sadly ignored the advice. The rest is history.
I never met Noades and I do not dispute any stories about him talking to fans. As I said, when he didn't like what we were saying in the ground he threw us out.
I did however meet Simon Jordan in around 2005 in a hotel bar through a mutual friend. For those with short memories, this was at the time that Noades was suing Palace for money that he said he was owed under the lease of the ground. He wanted to squeeze the pips out. Jordan's opinion of Noades was, unsurprising, low. A torrent of abuse.
Noades then sold the freehold for �12m in 2007 to investors who wanted to try and develop houses on it. Noades couldn't have cared less if they succeeded or not. We only managed to buy in 2010 because the owning company went bust and the administrators off loaded it to us for �10m.
I don't dispute the (mixed) success on the pitch as during this period before I had kids I went to almost every game, but as some saviour of Palace with "Palace til I die" etched in his bones - no. At the end of the day he couldn't give a s*** what happened to the club.

Following Palace since 25 Feb 1978

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 23 Jan 21 2.42pm
Noades presided over one lucky year of success for the club. Achieved on a show string. I do think it can be repeated - probably not by us. However, our most successful spell is now isn't it? I don't recall us ever feeling safe around now - or even thinking ahead to next season. We were always a season away from disaster in the past. I'm presuming we aren't now. Ron has his supporters and his detractors. I think we didn't mind him when we had little ambition, but when Coppell wasn't backed and when he got his claws into the infrastructure of the club, we weren't happy. So mixed feelings really, some good times, some not so good, some bloody awful. Edited by ASCPFC (23 Jan 2021 2.43pm) Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 23 Jan 21 2.42pm

Noades presided over one lucky year of success for the club. Achieved on a show string. I do think it can be repeated - probably not by us. However, our most successful spell is now isn't it?
I don't recall us ever feeling safe around now - or even thinking ahead to next season. We were always a season away from disaster in the past. I'm presuming we aren't now.
Ron has his supporters and his detractors. I think we didn't mind him when we had little ambition, but when Coppell wasn't backed and when he got his claws into the infrastructure of the club, we weren't happy. So mixed feelings really, some good times, some not so good, some bloody awful.

Edited by ASCPFC (23 Jan 2021 2.43pm)

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crystal-purley Purley 23 Jan 21 3.00pm
Originally posted by kevlee I don't have fond memories of him. One match, probably mid 1990's I found myself in the Stanley Stephenson lounge / main stand, seated not far from where he was. It was a poor performance as I recall (there were lots of them at this time!!) and we were generally venting our spleen - and he got the security to chuck us out! Plus he might think he was being very clever and making lots of money for himself and his slapper of a wife, but he took Goldberg for a ride and caused years of misery to the club with the fall out. So basically, he can f*** right off. And I suspect some of the black players at the time will share my view. I agree with that especially taking the ground with him which was instrumental in the next two bankruptcies. Enjoying getting up later and not having someone who knows better than me (apart from the missus of course).
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Originally posted by kevlee

I don't have fond memories of him.
One match, probably mid 1990's I found myself in the Stanley Stephenson lounge / main stand, seated not far from where he was. It was a poor performance as I recall (there were lots of them at this time!!) and we were generally venting our spleen - and he got the security to chuck us out!
Plus he might think he was being very clever and making lots of money for himself and his slapper of a wife, but he took Goldberg for a ride and caused years of misery to the club with the fall out.
So basically, he can f*** right off.
And I suspect some of the black players at the time will share my view.

I agree with that especially taking the ground with him which was instrumental in the next two bankruptcies.

Enjoying getting up later and not having someone who knows better than me (apart from the missus of course).

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