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Neidin Clonakilty Co Cork 01 Feb 21 8.26am
Eddie Howe or Frank Lampard are our choices. Howe has much more management experience that Frank, and also Frank has to wait until Roman gives him his final lump sum cheque.......So Eddie is the man to come in next month and Sir Roy will go upstairs.
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Neidin

Clonakilty Co Cork 01 Feb 21 8.26am

Eddie Howe or Frank Lampard are our choices. Howe has much more management experience that Frank, and also Frank has to wait until Roman gives him his final lump sum cheque.......So Eddie is the man to come in next month and Sir Roy will go upstairs.

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Badger11 Beckenham 01 Feb 21 8.34am
What bothers me about Howe is that Bournemouth went into a long decline and he seemed clueless as to how to turn it around. Surely the mark of a manager is the ability to handle adversity and he was found wanting. One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 01 Feb 21 8.34am

What bothers me about Howe is that Bournemouth went into a long decline and he seemed clueless as to how to turn it around.

Surely the mark of a manager is the ability to handle adversity and he was found wanting.

One more point

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AERO 01 Feb 21 8.59am
Like players most Managers are a risk .Fergusion, klopp, all had bad starts .And like players we need to give them time, and have long term plan throughout club.With FTB we just didn't have the players to play his way .For me Put Roy upstairs and either Eddie or Frank, maybe working alongside Lewington .Would actually like to see happen this season when we are safe, to give time and pre season to a New manager .
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AERO

01 Feb 21 8.59am

Like players most Managers are a risk .Fergusion, klopp, all had bad starts .And like players we need to give them time, and have long term plan throughout club.With FTB we just didn't have the players to play his way .For me Put Roy upstairs and either Eddie or Frank, maybe working alongside Lewington .Would actually like to see happen this season when we are safe, to give time and pre season to a New manager .

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Croydon-Trucker 01 Feb 21 9.01am
Originally posted by kingdowieonthewall Ernie, Eddies older brother. milkman I believe. drives the fastest milkcart in the west. Eddie would be better qualified. Was he dating 2 ton Tess from Teddington ?
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01 Feb 21 9.01am

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Originally posted by kingdowieonthewall

Ernie, Eddies older brother.
milkman I believe.
drives the fastest milkcart in the west.
Eddie would be better qualified.

Was he dating 2 ton Tess from Teddington ?

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Painter Croydon 01 Feb 21 9.07am
Originally posted by Badger11 What bothers me about Howe is that Bournemouth went into a long decline and he seemed clueless as to how to turn it around. Surely the mark of a manager is the ability to handle adversity and he was found wanting. Exactly, its easy to sit in a TV studio and talk as if you know what should be happening. In reality he wasnt able to apply that wisdom, when Bournemouth were struggling. Do we need a clueless manager,who doesnt know what to do, when things go wrong.
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Painter

Croydon 01 Feb 21 9.07am

Originally posted by Badger11

What bothers me about Howe is that Bournemouth went into a long decline and he seemed clueless as to how to turn it around.

Surely the mark of a manager is the ability to handle adversity and he was found wanting.

Exactly, its easy to sit in a TV studio and talk as if you know what should be happening. In reality he wasnt able to apply that wisdom, when Bournemouth were struggling.

Do we need a clueless manager,who doesnt know what to do, when things go wrong.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Feb 21 9.31am
Originally posted by Painter Exactly, its easy to sit in a TV studio and talk as if you know what should be happening. In reality he wasnt able to apply that wisdom, when Bournemouth were struggling. Do we need a clueless manager,who doesnt know what to do, when things go wrong. With the utmost respect, this is rather disrespectful towards Eddie Howe. When he returned to Bournemouth in the 2012-13 season, the club were in 20th place in League 1 after 12 games and he got them promoted that season finishing 2nd. A further promotion was achieved of course to take the club from the Championship to the PL. Bournemouth were expected to be relegated in their first season but under Howe they spent 5 seasons in the PL. He can be proud of what he achieved at Bournemouth.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Feb 21 9.31am

Originally posted by Painter

Exactly, its easy to sit in a TV studio and talk as if you know what should be happening. In reality he wasnt able to apply that wisdom, when Bournemouth were struggling.

Do we need a clueless manager,who doesnt know what to do, when things go wrong.

With the utmost respect, this is rather disrespectful towards Eddie Howe.

When he returned to Bournemouth in the 2012-13 season, the club were in 20th place in League 1 after 12 games and he got them promoted that season finishing 2nd.
A further promotion was achieved of course to take the club from the Championship to the PL.
Bournemouth were expected to be relegated in their first season but under Howe they spent 5 seasons in the PL.
He can be proud of what he achieved at Bournemouth.

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Badger11 Beckenham 01 Feb 21 9.39am
Originally posted by Willo With the utmost respect, this is rather disrespectful towards Eddie Howe. When he returned to Bournemouth in the 2012-13 season, the club were in 20th place in League 1 after 12 games and he got them promoted that season finishing 2nd. A further promotion was achieved of course to take the club from the Championship to the PL. Bournemouth were expected to be relegated in their first season but under Howe they spent 5 seasons in the PL. He can be proud of what he achieved at Bournemouth. Its not Willo, we are not criticising Howe's achievements just his inability to turn around a club that spiralled into defeat. He went on a great run and no doubt the players had belief in him, why wouldn't they. But sometimes the stars align and you ride the wave of success e.g. Ian Holloway getting us promoted. Most managers and pundits agree that when it goes wrong that is when a manager shows their quality. Howe looked a beaten man week after week when I saw him interviewed and I guess the players eventually lost faith in him. He wasn't unlucky to get relegated. One more point
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Beckenham 01 Feb 21 9.39am

Originally posted by Willo

With the utmost respect, this is rather disrespectful towards Eddie Howe.

Its not Willo, we are not criticising Howe's achievements just his inability to turn around a club that spiralled into defeat.

He went on a great run and no doubt the players had belief in him, why wouldn't they. But sometimes the stars align and you ride the wave of success e.g. Ian Holloway getting us promoted.

Most managers and pundits agree that when it goes wrong that is when a manager shows their quality. Howe looked a beaten man week after week when I saw him interviewed and I guess the players eventually lost faith in him.

He wasn't unlucky to get relegated.

One more point

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beak croydon 01 Feb 21 9.41am
Originally posted by A1969Eagle Listen to the intelligence of the man, very impressive, he can see what it takes to be positive and tactical. He knows what its takes!! Then listen to Roy... Ernie, is worth a punt or do we already have a pre-deal? He reads the game very well and in a bigger club with better players, we have them. I know 100% who I would have next season. Forget other choices of possible managers. Ernie or Roy? Ernie if he picks my Premium Bonds. Roy to pick my football team. Eddie Howe to pick up a pundit job.
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beak

croydon 01 Feb 21 9.41am

Originally posted by A1969Eagle

Listen to the intelligence of the man, very impressive, he can see what it takes to be positive and tactical. He knows what its takes!!

Then listen to Roy...

Ernie, is worth a punt or do we already have a pre-deal?
He reads the game very well and in a bigger club with better players, we have them. I know 100% who I would have next season.

Forget other choices of possible managers.

Ernie or Roy?

Ernie if he picks my Premium Bonds. Roy to pick my football team. Eddie Howe to pick up a pundit job.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Feb 21 10.00am
Originally posted by Badger11 Its not Willo, we are not criticising Howe's achievements just his inability to turn around a club that spiralled into defeat. He went on a great run and no doubt the players had belief in him, why wouldn't they. But sometimes the stars align and you ride the wave of success e.g. Ian Holloway getting us promoted. Most managers and pundits agree that when it goes wrong that is when a manager shows their quality. Howe looked a beaten man week after week when I saw him interviewed and I guess the players eventually lost faith in him. He wasn't unlucky to get relegated. Managers have troughs as well as peaks and just because they have a trough does not equate to them being "Useless". Alex Fergusion was removed of his duties by St Mirren and Espanyol were not best placed when Pochettino left, the club. Brendan Rodgers left Reading with the club close to the relegation zone after some disappointing results. Edited by Willo (01 Feb 2021 10.02am)
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Feb 21 10.00am

Originally posted by Badger11

Its not Willo, we are not criticising Howe's achievements just his inability to turn around a club that spiralled into defeat.

He went on a great run and no doubt the players had belief in him, why wouldn't they. But sometimes the stars align and you ride the wave of success e.g. Ian Holloway getting us promoted.

Most managers and pundits agree that when it goes wrong that is when a manager shows their quality. Howe looked a beaten man week after week when I saw him interviewed and I guess the players eventually lost faith in him.

He wasn't unlucky to get relegated.

Managers have troughs as well as peaks and just because they have a trough does not equate to them being "Useless".
Alex Fergusion was removed of his duties by St Mirren and Espanyol were not best placed when Pochettino left, the club.
Brendan Rodgers left Reading with the club close to the relegation zone after some disappointing results.

Edited by Willo (01 Feb 2021 10.02am)

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Putitout Oxford 01 Feb 21 10.02am
Howe , benefited from developing his brand in the lower leagues ,and then riding a wave to the top. It�s was a decent brand and it took a year or two to go sour, but when it did he had no answer. This is the premier league you have to have instant answers if you want to stay in it. For that reason I wouldn�t want Howe to keep us in the league let alone take us forward, unless maybe if the board were prepared to invest much further in the playing staff . But then if that was possible we might attract a number of top managers. People say Roy ,has no plan B , there was no plan at Bournemouth, when it was needed. My feeling is if we are going to change the way we approach success beyond where we are now, we need to contemplate relegation, put Frank Lampard in place, that�s if he would have us , and let him develop a bright outfit based on young talents in much the way he did at Derby. His handling of Chelsea�s young players was first class. Top six says the success has to be instant he couldn�t get that . But let�s face it he was being judged on not hitting the top of the pile.
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Oxford 01 Feb 21 10.02am

Howe , benefited from developing his brand in the lower leagues ,and then riding a wave to the top. It�s was a decent brand and it took a year or two to go sour, but when it did he had no answer.
This is the premier league you have to have instant answers if you want to stay in it.
For that reason I wouldn�t want Howe to keep us in the league let alone take us forward, unless maybe if the board were prepared to invest much further in the playing staff . But then if that was possible we might attract a number of top managers. People say Roy ,has no plan B , there was no plan at Bournemouth, when it was needed.
My feeling is if we are going to change the way we approach success beyond where we are now, we need to contemplate relegation, put Frank Lampard in place, that�s if he would have us , and let him develop a bright outfit based on young talents in much the way he did at Derby. His handling of Chelsea�s young players was first class.
Top six says the success has to be instant he couldn�t get that . But let�s face it he was being judged on not hitting the top of the pile.

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Jacey 01 Feb 21 10.02am
Roy cannot go on indefinitely and has to retire in the not too distant future. Meaning that if the Club fails to plan for this eventuality,it plans to fail.
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Jacey

01 Feb 21 10.02am

Roy cannot go on indefinitely and has to retire in the not too distant future.
Meaning that if the Club fails to plan for this eventuality,it plans to fail.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Feb 21 10.07am
Originally posted by Putitout Howe , benefited from developing his brand in the lower leagues ,and then riding a wave to the top. It�s was a decent brand and it took a year or two to go sour, but when it did he had no answer. This is the premier league you have to have instant answers if you want to stay in it. For that reason I wouldn�t want Howe to keep us in the league let alone take us forward, unless maybe if the board were prepared to invest much further in the playing staff . But then if that was possible we might attract a number of top managers. People say Roy ,has no plan B , there was no plan at Bournemouth, when it was needed. My feeling is if we are going to change the way we approach success beyond where we are now, we need to contemplate relegation, put Frank Lampard in place, that�s if he would have us , and let him develop a bright outfit based on young talents in much the way he did at Derby. His handling of Chelsea�s young players was first class. Top six says the success has to be instant he couldn�t get that . But let�s face it he was being judged on not hitting the top of the pile. I think that any manager who takes his side from 20th position in League 1 to the PL and keeps them there for 5 seasons deserves a great deal of credit.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Feb 21 10.07am

Originally posted by Putitout

I think that any manager who takes his side from 20th position in League 1 to the PL and keeps them there for 5 seasons deserves a great deal of credit.

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