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View Palace Passion's Profile Palace Passion Flag Bromley, South London 28 Feb 21 9.17pm Send a Private Message to Palace Passion Add Palace Passion as a friend

Does anyone agree with me I think with the players we have got we would suit these formations with attacking full backs getting forward and helping wingers get crosses into the box for Benteke/Mateta?

5-1-3-1

Guaita

Cahill-------Tomkins-------Dann
Clyne----------------------Van Aanholt

Kouyate

Townsend--------Eze--------Zaha

Benteke

5-2-2-1

Guaita

Cahill------Tomkins------Dann
Clyne--------------------Van Aanholt

Kouyate---Riedewald

Eze------------------------Zaha

Benteke

 


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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 28 Feb 21 9.21pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Not for me. The outside centre backs have to be quick enough to get over and cover the space the wingbacks leave when they go forward.

 

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View doi209's Profile doi209 Flag Fighting for the weak and innocent... 28 Feb 21 10.04pm Send a Private Message to doi209 Add doi209 as a friend

Eze was lost today. Makes no effort.
And we paid how much ?

 

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View pax3908's Profile pax3908 Flag 28 Feb 21 10.55pm Send a Private Message to pax3908 Add pax3908 as a friend

Originally posted by doi209

Eze was lost today. Makes no effort.
And we paid how much ?

Not really surprising he must be wondering how he got conned into signing for this load of rubbish!!

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 28 Feb 21 11.06pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by doi209

Eze was lost today. Makes no effort.
And we paid how much ?

My understanding is that the fee was £16 Mill rising to £19.5 Mill + a 20% sell-on clause.

 

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View doi209's Profile doi209 Flag Fighting for the weak and innocent... 01 Mar 21 8.20am Send a Private Message to doi209 Add doi209 as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

My understanding is that the fee was £16 Mill rising to £19.5 Mill + a 20% sell-on clause.

It was a rhetorical question....

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 01 Mar 21 9.04am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by doi209

Eze was lost today. Makes no effort.
And we paid how much ?

He was bought as a flair player ( Isuspect as a replacement for Wilf). He spends most of his time defending and the flair aspect is being slowly eradicated from his game.
Without Wilf in the team, he is being doubled upon, give him a break he is still coming to terms with the PL.
I believe the price paid was reasonable for a young talent like him

 

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View Helmet46's Profile Helmet46 Flag Croydon 01 Mar 21 10.11am Send a Private Message to Helmet46 Add Helmet46 as a friend

Originally posted by Palace Passion

Does anyone agree with me I think with the players we have got we would suit these formations with attacking full backs getting forward and helping wingers get crosses into the box for Benteke/Mateta?

5-1-3-1

Guaita

Cahill-------Tomkins-------Dann
Clyne----------------------Van Aanholt

Kouyate

Townsend--------Eze--------Zaha

Benteke

5-2-2-1

Guaita

Cahill------Tomkins------Dann
Clyne--------------------Van Aanholt

Kouyate---Riedewald

Eze------------------------Zaha

Benteke

I’d take Dann out. Not good enough. I’d drop to a 4231 with Eze playing in behind Mateta and Ayew or Townsend on the right.
I’d also replace Riedewald with a fit MacArthur. Tomkins is, in my opinion, our best CB and the partnership with him and Cahill is the strongest.

 

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 01 Mar 21 10.22am Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Where I think there is something to be said for a three centre back system, is that it allows us to get Zaha and Eze in what I think is their best positions. I would differ slightly to the OP in describing it as a 3-4-3:

VG

CB CB CB

Clyne CM CM Mitchell

Zaha Eze
CF

You can pick any two of our central midfielders to sit in. I quite like Mccarthy, but he'll probably be gone next year.

Mateta might be the right man to play CF, but I think the jury has yet to see enough evidence on that.

The issue is the three centre backs. Ours are too slow. Some teams play a back three with two centre backs and a defensive minded full back, so add a pit of mobility. At Chelsea they used Azpilicueta alongside Luiz and Cahill when winning the league. Arsenal used Tierney on the left of a three at time this year. Kyle Walker has played in a three for England.

We could get away with maybe Ward, Cahill and Koyate, but the latter would have to play on his weaker side, and we'd have no cover at all really. Dann couldn't do it at all. Tomkins is never fit.

Plus you'd want to have the summer to work on such a big shift in shape and tactics.

Edited by TheBigToePunt (01 Mar 2021 10.23am)

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 01 Mar 21 10.44am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

If we ever get to see Ferguson, he may be just the man for a back 3 system next season.

 

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 01 Mar 21 12.13pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by doombear

If we ever get to see Ferguson, he may be just the man for a back 3 system next season.

Yes, he could well be.

According to a piece written by a WBA fan for five year plan, Ferguson is OK on the ball, but is basically a versatile, committed defenders defender.

I'm not sure that Roy has every used a back 3/5 system though. The last Palace manager to give that a go was De Boer!

 

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View Davepalace707's Profile Davepalace707 Flag Northumberland 01 Mar 21 12.38pm Send a Private Message to Davepalace707 Add Davepalace707 as a friend

From what I could see yesterday the formation was

Guita

BUS


And I look forward to the same on Wednesday

 

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