Agents. Who Needs 'em Eh?

Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 11 Apr 21 1.40pm
I've just read that Kevin De Bruyne negotiated his own new Ł20.8m contract with Man City. No agent involved, didn’t know that. Well done him. Football agents have creamed off Ł272m commission over the past year apparently. They are a blight which needs better control. They've done much to push up prices which works against smaller clubs, like ours. I remember Simon Jordan running his own, one man crusade trying not to pay agents. He made a point, but didn't really win. Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.
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I've just read that Kevin De Bruyne negotiated his own new Ł20.8m contract with Man City. No agent involved, didn’t know that. Well done him.

Football agents have creamed off Ł272m commission over the past year apparently. They are a blight which needs better control. They've done much to push up prices which works against smaller clubs, like ours.

I remember Simon Jordan running his own, one man crusade trying not to pay agents. He made a point, but didn't really win.

Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

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Badger11 Beckenham 11 Apr 21 2.09pm
FIFA tried to regulate the business and gave up. There are dodgy agents but the worst stuff is unlicensed. The reason FIFA gave up is that these people do not claim to be agents but advisors or intermediaries and so do not require a license. Often these people are used by the player or club as a tax dodge e.g. advisor for the player is his father and his fee is actually a bung to the player. The only way I can see how it can be regulated is that all monies are paid by the club direct to FIFA who can redistribute it to the buying club and all interested parties and advise the tax authorities. This at least would provide transparency. As to what the players earn I don't begrudge anyone for maximising their worth. One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 11 Apr 21 2.09pm

FIFA tried to regulate the business and gave up.

There are dodgy agents but the worst stuff is unlicensed.

The reason FIFA gave up is that these people do not claim to be agents but advisors or intermediaries and so do not require a license.

Often these people are used by the player or club as a tax dodge e.g. advisor for the player is his father and his fee is actually a bung to the player.

The only way I can see how it can be regulated is that all monies are paid by the club direct to FIFA who can redistribute it to the buying club and all interested parties and advise the tax authorities.

This at least would provide transparency.

As to what the players earn I don't begrudge anyone for
maximising their worth.

One more point

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Pierre Purley 12 Apr 21 1.40pm
Originally posted by Badger11 FIFA tried to regulate the business and gave up. There are dodgy agents but the worst stuff is unlicensed. The reason FIFA gave up is that these people do not claim to be agents but advisors or intermediaries and so do not require a license. Often these people are used by the player or club as a tax dodge e.g. advisor for the player is his father and his fee is actually a bung to the player. The only way I can see how it can be regulated is that all monies are paid by the club direct to FIFA who can redistribute it to the buying club and all interested parties and advise the tax authorities. This at least would provide transparency. As to what the players earn I don't begrudge anyone for maximising their worth. You want all the money paid to FIFA. That well run, efficient, honest, scrupulously clean, moral organisation! Have you lost your senses man?
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Pierre

Purley 12 Apr 21 1.40pm

Originally posted by Badger11

FIFA tried to regulate the business and gave up.

There are dodgy agents but the worst stuff is unlicensed.

The reason FIFA gave up is that these people do not claim to be agents but advisors or intermediaries and so do not require a license.

Often these people are used by the player or club as a tax dodge e.g. advisor for the player is his father and his fee is actually a bung to the player.

This at least would provide transparency.

As to what the players earn I don't begrudge anyone for
maximising their worth.

You want all the money paid to FIFA. That well run, efficient, honest, scrupulously clean, moral organisation! Have you lost your senses man?

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JRW2 Dulwich 12 Apr 21 3.00pm
Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer I remember Simon Jordan running his own, one man crusade trying not to pay agents. He made a point, but didn't really win. Yes, I recall the Tim Cahill business. I believe we were in with a good chance of getting him from Millwall, but his agent then demanded an arrangement fee of something like Ł125k. Jordan told him to take a jump and the player went to Everton. But I think he succeeded in keeping AJ's agent out of the negotiation that led to his staying with us for one more season.
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JRW2

Dulwich 12 Apr 21 3.00pm

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

I remember Simon Jordan running his own, one man crusade trying not to pay agents. He made a point, but didn't really win.

Yes, I recall the Tim Cahill business. I believe we were in with a good chance of getting him from Millwall, but his agent then demanded an arrangement fee of something like Ł125k. Jordan told him to take a jump and the player went to Everton. But I think he succeeded in keeping AJ's agent out of the negotiation that led to his staying with us for one more season.

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Qwijibo Bournemouth 12 Apr 21 11.08pm
Think Dougie did his own deals. Presumably including the Bolton one
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Bournemouth 12 Apr 21 11.08pm

Think Dougie did his own deals.

Presumably including the Bolton one

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Badger11 Beckenham 13 Apr 21 7.41am
Originally posted by Pierre You want all the money paid to FIFA. That well run, efficient, honest, scrupulously clean, moral organisation! Have you lost your senses man? Well not FIFA exactly but a financial services company appointed by them but point taken. One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 13 Apr 21 7.41am

Originally posted by Pierre

You want all the money paid to FIFA. That well run, efficient, honest, scrupulously clean, moral organisation! Have you lost your senses man?

Well not FIFA exactly but a financial services company appointed by them but point taken.

One more point

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 13 Apr 21 12.10pm
Originally posted by Badger11 Well not FIFA exactly but a financial services company appointed by them but point taken. I'm not sure I'd want to trust any firm appointed or recommended by FIFA, either.
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doombear

Too far from Selhurst Park 13 Apr 21 12.10pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Well not FIFA exactly but a financial services company appointed by them but point taken.

I'm not sure I'd want to trust any firm appointed or recommended by FIFA, either.

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cryrst The garden of England 14 Apr 21 5.27am
Originally posted by JRW2 Yes, I recall the Tim Cahill business. I believe we were in with a good chance of getting him from Millwall, but his agent then demanded an arrangement fee of something like Ł125k. Jordan told him to take a jump and the player went to Everton. But I think he succeeded in keeping AJ's agent out of the negotiation that led to his staying with us for one more season. Jordan admitted that not signing cahill probably relegated us that year. Morals sometimes sit on the fence!
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cryrst

The garden of England 14 Apr 21 5.27am

Originally posted by JRW2

Jordan admitted that not signing cahill probably relegated us that year.
Morals sometimes sit on the fence!

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