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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Online Flag Horsham 19 Apr 21 9.43am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


A quote from David Bernstein (Ex FA Chairman).

“....it's because some of these clubs have incurred enormous debt. I believe certainly Barcelona and Real Madrid, and I think at least one of the English clubs, are approaching £1bn of debt”.

"I think they're in a desperate situation. One of the things they haven't done during the pandemic is to impose some sort of wages control. They've got themselves into a bit of a predicament."

So ESL being financed by JP Morgan. The Glazers have taken out billions in loans from..... JP Morgan

 

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View CrazyBadger's Profile CrazyBadger Flag Ware 19 Apr 21 9.45am Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend


Seems like the Americans have come in and are trying to import Their own brand of non-relegation, profit based US Sports system, and have convinced the money men at Barca/RM/Juve that this is the way forward.

Just can't understand how this will work. this will have to be a replacement for the Champions League, but UEFA aren't about to let that happen. If they exclude the biggest 20 teams in Europe, then their flagship product is ruined.

Even If it does carry on - what does that mean for the PL?
If they are allowed to Participate, the big six will quickly devalue it and begin to play their second XI ala the Cup matches.
What about in Regards to European Qualification? if The CL still exists, then, what, the players placed 7-10 will get european spots? including teams with a lot less resource?

The FA and UEFA aren't about to Govern this new League - so we'll end up getting 2 completely different Sports. ala Rugby League/union as the SL bosses apply different laws of the game.

The only way It makes any sense is for the club(and the TV Companies)participating. Players/Domestic Associations/Footballing authorities and Fans are all worse off.

Posturing of the highest order.

 


"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 19 Apr 21 9.45am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Well if the big 6 are so keen on making changes to the game perhaps they should change their names to reflect their new fan base.

Singapore United

Beijing Chelsea

Bangkok to Manchester City

Abu Dhabi Gunners

Qatari Bin Dippers

and of course the famous

couldntwintheleaguesohadtojoinabreakaway Hotspurs

 


One more point

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Online Flag Horsham 19 Apr 21 9.49am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Well if the big 6 are so keen on making changes to the game perhaps they should change their names to reflect their new fan base.

Singapore United

Beijing Chelsea

Bangkok to Manchester City

Abu Dhabi Gunners

Qatari Bin Dippers

and of course the famous

couldntwintheleaguesohadtojoinabreakaway Hotspurs

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Online Flag Horsham 19 Apr 21 9.50am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by CrazyBadger


Seems like the Americans have come in and are trying to import Their own brand of non-relegation, profit based US Sports system, and have convinced the money men at Barca/RM/Juve that this is the way forward.

Just can't understand how this will work. this will have to be a replacement for the Champions League, but UEFA aren't about to let that happen. If they exclude the biggest 20 teams in Europe, then their flagship product is ruined.

Even If it does carry on - what does that mean for the PL?
If they are allowed to Participate, the big six will quickly devalue it and begin to play their second XI ala the Cup matches.
What about in Regards to European Qualification? if The CL still exists, then, what, the players placed 7-10 will get european spots? including teams with a lot less resource?

The FA and UEFA aren't about to Govern this new League - so we'll end up getting 2 completely different Sports. ala Rugby League/union as the SL bosses apply different laws of the game.

The only way It makes any sense is for the club(and the TV Companies)participating. Players/Domestic Associations/Footballing authorities and Fans are all worse off.

Posturing of the highest order.

Yep and don’t forget commercial breaks during the game

 

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View Frickin Saweet's Profile Frickin Saweet Flag South Cronx 19 Apr 21 9.53am Send a Private Message to Frickin Saweet Add Frickin Saweet as a friend

I really hope that FIFA, UEFA and country leagues stand firm on this. A super league is unviable if players can't play in Euros/WC/Champs League etc, and I don't think that interest in a breakaway league with no link to the rest of the football world is viable. Would love to see them break away and slowly fizzle out to nothing, leaving the rest of the football world to establish a new top order. It might take 20-years to right itself but it sets an example to all and is deliverable within a generation.

 

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View OneWayTicketToMars's Profile OneWayTicketToMars Flag Selsdon 19 Apr 21 9.59am Send a Private Message to OneWayTicketToMars Add OneWayTicketToMars as a friend

The announcement would not have been made if lawyers etc for each club would not have gone over the agreements with the PL etc could not be broken. The money to be made out odf this is enormous with TV rights, Advert breaks, this would have all been taken into account. JP Morgan would not have bankrolled this without a return on there investment ... I also think that the MLS will get involved at some stage and instead of a European Super League it will be renamed something else which means even more money for the owners.
I suspect there will be a lot of court cases and legal arguments before this is a done deal ... and then if it is ... kick them out of there home leagues. Makes it more interesting for everyone else. So greedy.

 


Record crowd 51,482 - The Whitehorse was rocking - Second Div Champs 1978 - 79 ... 'wot a night !

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View Behind Enemy Lines's Profile Behind Enemy Lines Flag Sussex 19 Apr 21 10.00am Send a Private Message to Behind Enemy Lines Add Behind Enemy Lines as a friend

It'll go ahead despite all the sabre rattling. Effectively the domestic cup competitions will be further devalued without the six (or they'll put in the under-18s). However, there may be a benefit to us 'smaller' clubs, and therefore we should get that new stand built asap to take advantage of migrating disgruntled London fans who are 'old skool' believers in the game. With three London clubs migrating to this super league, we could take advantage.

 


hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

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View mezzer's Profile mezzer Flag Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 19 Apr 21 10.16am Send a Private Message to mezzer Add mezzer as a friend

Football's created its own monster.

This is an extension of what's been building over the years.....in no particular order, the awarding of the World Cup to Qatar, the break away initially by the Premier League from the Football League, the devaluing of the FA Cup through (for example) Man Utd not entering one year because they had to play some made up "Super Cup" abroad, the use of Wembley for semi finals in addition to the Final, the moving of the FA Cup Final time from 3 o'clock on a Saturday to various other times, the number of pointless England "friendlies" that allowed virtually any footballer who was qualified to play for England to get a cap, the replacement of the European Cup by the formation of the "Champions" League to allow the three runners up to take part against other runners up across the Continent, the abolition of the European Cup Winners Cup (winning domestic cups isn't important any more), the total disdain shown to supporters of clubs by the constant rearranging of kick off times to accommodate the TV paymasters and the subsequent disconnect by the players from the fanbase.

The list could probably go on. But a bit like the millions that poured into the streets mourning the death of Princess Diana despite fuelling the media circus that killed her by continually buying the publications that followed her around, people like me are partially to blame too because I still pay my Sky subscription and have a season ticket at Selhurst whilst slavishly getting train and replacement bus journeys at whatever time of the day or night I'm told to in order to watch the sport I love.

 


Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

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View DANGERCLOSE's Profile DANGERCLOSE Flag london 19 Apr 21 10.21am Send a Private Message to DANGERCLOSE Add DANGERCLOSE as a friend

As far as i'm concerned the big six can do one Arsenal are u avin a laugh 9th in the table and spurs are you sure Good thing is it would give us more of a chance to win something

 

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View Mstrobez's Profile Mstrobez Flag 19 Apr 21 10.40am Send a Private Message to Mstrobez Add Mstrobez as a friend

The best players in the world are not going to play for teams which restricts their access to the Premier League, La Liga, Bundesliga, Serie A, the Champions League or the World Cup. If they want to go we shouldn’t even be standing in their way - merely standing firm and enforcing the bans.

 


We're the Arthur over ere!

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View Cannonball's Profile Cannonball Flag High in the Ozarks. 19 Apr 21 10.47am Send a Private Message to Cannonball Add Cannonball as a friend

If they employ the american style franchise system then we can expect location changes in the future...
for example Tel Aviv Spurs and Real Dubai etc.

 


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