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View braunstoneagle's Profile braunstoneagle Flag the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 03 Jul 21 8.42am Send a Private Message to braunstoneagle Add braunstoneagle as a friend

Originally posted by Phil’s Barber

What about the fact that at the start of this thread he said it was Frank Lampard…..and prior to that it was Eddie Howe? And since Lampard it has also been a done deal on both NES and Favre???

The bloke’s a joke and his misinformation is extremely irritating and unhelpful.

gets his info from big dave down the pub, who in turn got it from the sun gossip column.

 


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View HesHereHesThere's Profile HesHereHesThere Flag Beckenham 03 Jul 21 8.44am Send a Private Message to HesHereHesThere Add HesHereHesThere as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

I have been a fan for over 50 years who happens to be one of those who questions what’s going on.
Does that make me less of a fan or one those who feel ‘entitled.’
I don’t believe so.
I just happen to feel uncomfortable with the current situation which to me seems to have been avoidable.
As many others have pointed out , it’s been known for some time that Roy was going and that we had around ten players out of contract at the end of June.
There does not appear to have been any succession plan in place .
Townsend said on the radio around a month ago that the players had been advised of plans to make a managerial appointment in around 2 weeks and that those out of contract would be advised of plans once the new manager was appointed who could determine which players he wanted to retain.
An appointment was not made and a few days later Benteke was offered and signed a new contract without any input from a new manager.
Inconsistency.
What happens if the new manager doesn’t rate Benteke?

What is being asked if for a third choice management and coaching team to assemble a Premier competitive team from the remnants of last season’s ageing squad together with presumably 3 or 4 new signings together with perhaps a couple of loans.
A bunch of strangers in the main unfamiliar with each other’s working methods required to be ready in a matter of weeks.
I don’t see how how anybody can see this as some sort of master plan with a coherent strategy.

Bang on

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Online Flag 03 Jul 21 9.11am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

I don’t see how how anybody can see this as some sort of master plan with a coherent strategy.

In the 11 years of CPFC2010 there has only been one master plan with a coherent strategy that has worked and that is the way that Parish acquired the club as per the final chapter in Simon Jordan's book

The second master plan that is partway to fruition is the upgrading of the academy to the top status in order to attract and develop the best talent from the local area. Time will tell if this has worked.

Most of the other successes seem to be the result of luck in what I have called serendipity management.

I was roundly derided years ago when I wondered out loud if we would have been promoted if it wasn't for the happy accident of having a young lad called Wilfried Zaha in our youth ranks.

On occasions when we have had to dispense with managers due to the risk of relegation Parish has been fortunate to have anti relegation specialists like Pulis, Allardyce and Hodgson available to hire.

Some of the transfer windows have been dreadful leaving us with huge gaps in our squad but by the biggest stroke of luck we have managed to survive.

As you can see I am a sceptic when words and phrases like "master plans" and "strategy" are bandied about.

If our next manager is to be Vieira and he is successful will it be down to a cleverly thought out strategy or just more of Parish's luck?

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 03 Jul 21 9.27am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by Phil’s Barber

What about the fact that at the start of this thread he said it was Frank Lampard…..and prior to that it was Eddie Howe? And since Lampard it has also been a done deal on both NES and Favre???

The bloke’s a joke and his misinformation is extremely irritating and unhelpful.


I just happen to think on this occasion he may be right. After all, a stopped clock is right twice a day.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 03 Jul 21 9.36am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

In the 11 years of CPFC2010 there has only been one master plan with a coherent strategy that has worked and that is the way that Parish acquired the club as per the final chapter in Simon Jordan's book

The second master plan that is partway to fruition is the upgrading of the academy to the top status in order to attract and develop the best talent from the local area. Time will tell if this has worked.

Most of the other successes seem to be the result of luck in what I have called serendipity management.

I was roundly derided years ago when I wondered out loud if we would have been promoted if it wasn't for the happy accident of having a young lad called Wilfried Zaha in our youth ranks.

On occasions when we have had to dispense with managers due to the risk of relegation Parish has been fortunate to have anti relegation specialists like Pulis, Allardyce and Hodgson available to hire.

Some of the transfer windows have been dreadful leaving us with huge gaps in our squad but by the biggest stroke of luck we have managed to survive.

As you can see I am a sceptic when words and phrases like "master plans" and "strategy" are bandied about.

If our next manager is to be Vieira and he is successful will it be down to a cleverly thought out strategy or just more of Parish's luck?

Must have bought a hell of a lot of lucky heather then.

Couldn’t possibly be any other factors at work.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 03 Jul 21 9.41am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

In the 11 years of CPFC2010 there has only been one master plan with a coherent strategy that has worked and that is the way that Parish acquired the club as per the final chapter in Simon Jordan's book

The second master plan that is partway to fruition is the upgrading of the academy to the top status in order to attract and develop the best talent from the local area. Time will tell if this has worked.

Most of the other successes seem to be the result of luck in what I have called serendipity management.

I was roundly derided years ago when I wondered out loud if we would have been promoted if it wasn't for the happy accident of having a young lad called Wilfried Zaha in our youth ranks.

On occasions when we have had to dispense with managers due to the risk of relegation Parish has been fortunate to have anti relegation specialists like Pulis, Allardyce and Hodgson available to hire.

Some of the transfer windows have been dreadful leaving us with huge gaps in our squad but by the biggest stroke of luck we have managed to survive.

As you can see I am a sceptic when words and phrases like "master plans" and "strategy" are bandied about.

If our next manager is to be Vieira and he is successful will it be down to a cleverly thought out strategy or just more of Parish's luck?

I think you’re right. Add in overspending on wages far beyond our revenue in the league. It’s hardly strategic. No left back or striker etc is one thing, but Parish might be taking it too far with no manager. But, as ever, every week we have no manager and a dozen players light Parish is saving fortunes only for all of them to make the best of it when they’re finally in, after leaving them underprepared.

 


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View Phil’s Barber's Profile Phil’s Barber Flag Crowborough 03 Jul 21 10.02am Send a Private Message to Phil’s Barber Add Phil’s Barber as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


I just happen to think on this occasion he may be right. After all, a stopped clock is right twice a day.

I know doombear and I’m inclined to agree with you on this one, as there is a lot of talk on the internet and social media about the PV announcement.

As Monster Munch points out though, the timing and content of dazza’s updates NEVER actually seem to precede or elaborate on news already reported on the various Twitter feeds.

Edited by Phil’s Barber (03 Jul 2021 10.03am)

 

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View Helmet46's Profile Helmet46 Flag Croydon 03 Jul 21 10.03am Send a Private Message to Helmet46 Add Helmet46 as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

You seem to expect a weekly update of the going ons at the club. This isnt issued by any other club, why should Palace.
It has been the close season, when players have been on their holidays, any issues would of been dealt with by Freeman.
Regarding the manager situation, they dont want to announce officially who they are going after, as there are enough rumours in the media already, why add fuel to the fire.
A new manager will be announced, when everything is signed and sealed, not before. The fact that the board have a huge financial investment in the club, gives a reassurance that they are doing their best to secure their investment by getting the best person for the job. Having disgruntled fans whos appartant self entitlement for all the detils, isnt top of their agenda.

Did you bother to read my post? (I have assumed not). This is what I said in the second paragraph:-

“I don’t harbour any expectations to hear company secrets, I don’t expect to receive their hit list nor hear about negotiations but I do believe that the club should attempt to calm us all down a bit with a comment to the effect that all is under control, player contracts are being dealt with, scouting continues etc.”

That’s not a weekly update - that’s simply a request for “don’t worry, all under control” as I also said in that paragraph.

Or are you saying that, as fans, we are not “entitled” to that?


Edited by Helmet46 (03 Jul 2021 10.06am)

 

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View dazza's Profile dazza Flag Wallington 03 Jul 21 10.07am Send a Private Message to dazza Add dazza as a friend

Originally posted by Phil’s Barber

I know doombear and I’m inclined to agree with you on this one, as there is a lot of talk on the internet and social media about the PV announcement.

As Monster Munch points out though, the timing and content of dazza’s updates NEVER actually seem to precede or elaborate on news already reported on the various Twitter feeds.

Edited by Phil’s Barber (03 Jul 2021 10.03am)

Seriously, why keep going on about it don’t read the messages then that way you won’t get irritated by them.

No one is asking you believe them.

You have choices in life now make yours & stop whining about the messages.

Someone just posted what others have said how do you know they have not gleaned that from me?

Just saying you should not Assume things?

 

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 03 Jul 21 10.32am Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by Helmet46

Did you bother to read my post? (I have assumed not). This is what I said in the second paragraph:-

“I don’t harbour any expectations to hear company secrets, I don’t expect to receive their hit list nor hear about negotiations but I do believe that the club should attempt to calm us all down a bit with a comment to the effect that all is under control, player contracts are being dealt with, scouting continues etc.”

That’s not a weekly update - that’s simply a request for “don’t worry, all under control” as I also said in that paragraph.

Or are you saying that, as fans, we are not “entitled” to that?


Edited by Helmet46 (03 Jul 2021 10.06am)

But what part of the update you envisage can we not work out for ourselves?

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Jul 21 10.36am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

But what part of the update you envisage can we not work out for ourselves?

Furthermore, I cannot recall other clubs issuing such re-assuring messages to their fanbase in similar circumstances.
Some cynical supporters might even conclude it is just a PR Exercise with a great deal of "Spin" !

 

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View MonsterMunch's Profile MonsterMunch Flag Cambridge 03 Jul 21 10.38am Send a Private Message to MonsterMunch Add MonsterMunch as a friend

Originally posted by dazza

Seriously, why keep going on about it don’t read the messages then that way you won’t get irritated by them.

No one is asking you believe them.

You have choices in life now make yours & stop whining about the messages.

Someone just posted what others have said how do you know they have not gleaned that from me?

Just saying you should not Assume things?

Because unfortunately you always post after it’s hit mainstream media. Take a look at my recent examples. When you’ve got pretty much every prediction wrong you should maybe vett your information a little more thoroughly than making defined predictions. Football fans take info on their club seriously and your recycling of information is not helpful when there’s already a lot of dissatisfaction for the club. If you are prepared to put yourself out there again and again with information then you should be prepared to take the criticism. Your track record is very poor so not sure what you are expecting. It’s obvious Twitter is your source. It’s a shame those on here fuel your ego trip which actually is not helpful for you.

 

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