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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 18 May 21 4.10am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Sine Roy was appointed we have played Burnley seven times and won 4, lost 3, no draws.

Does not paint Dyche as a master tactician compared to Roy.

I think he would be a safe pair of hands which would not good enough to many on here.

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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View Helmet46's Profile Helmet46 Flag Croydon 18 May 21 5.47am Send a Private Message to Helmet46 Add Helmet46 as a friend

Who knows. ‘Give me Sport’ reckon Eddie Howe ‘tanked’ on his interview with Palace, causing him to resurrect Celtics interest.

I don’t normally comment on all the speculative ‘in the know’ nonsense (as that is exactly what I reckon it is in most cases) but, as a manager (not football) that regularly employs people I certainly would not be wasting mine or anyone else’s time interviewing people for a job that was filled ‘all those’ weeks ago. Strangely I would consider that I might find better ways to occupy my time.

The cynic in me might even suggest that the timing (yesterday afternoon) of the breaking of the story below makes Lampard even more likely as it seemingly takes another front runner (Howe) out of the game. With Burnley surviving then I’d imagine Dyche is also unlikely, so if Roy is stepping down it’s not a reach to think that Lampard could be in the frame somewhere.

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 18 May 21 6.54am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Helmet46

Who knows. ‘Give me Sport’ reckon Eddie Howe ‘tanked’ on his interview with Palace, causing him to resurrect Celtics interest.

I don’t normally comment on all the speculative ‘in the know’ nonsense (as that is exactly what I reckon it is in most cases)

You say that you don't normally comment on "in the know" nonsense then proceed to do so from something an article that you read on a gutter clickbait pimping website written by that well known Palace knowledgebase Matthew Watkinson

 

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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

You say that you don't normally comment on "in the know" nonsense then proceed to do so from something an article that you read on a gutter clickbait pimping website written by that well known Palace knowledgebase Matthew Watkinson

Because, even though it is from that source, it’s still probably more reliable than ‘I heard it from my doctors receptionists neighbours son, who knows a bloke that is friends with someone that works in Sainsbury’s and who swears he knows Steve Parish’s chiropodist.’

So let’s talk about decent journalism. The Times don’t even reckon Lampard is in the frame? Howe (who I was highlighting) has moved out to 11/1 with the bookies and The Telegraph reckons Lampard is favourite.

That was rather my point - look at the different sources and decide if my ‘who knows’ comment is more accurate than any journalist, at any level or any claimed ‘in the know’ on here.

The point being, of course, is that in a multi-million pound Company, this is unlikely to leak, hence the myriad of rumours and counter rumours and any comment from anyone outside of the inner sanctum (journalists, click baiters and ‘in the knows’ included) is, in my opinion, nothing more than an attempt at educated guesswork. (But at least I put a source and a link - credible or not - I could simply have said “I’ve heard that Eddie Howe is not coming here” presented it as fact and hoped for the best. Would that have made for a better debate? Is it therefore better to present no source for discussion and simply claim to be “in the know”?)

It’s good to raise this stuff to debate who we reckon we would do a decent job but that’s all and that is why I rarely comment on these posts.


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Originally posted by Helmet46

Who knows. ‘Give me Sport’ reckon Eddie Howe ‘tanked’ on his interview with Palace, causing him to resurrect Celtics interest.

I don’t normally comment on all the speculative ‘in the know’ nonsense (as that is exactly what I reckon it is in most cases) but, as a manager (not football) that regularly employs people I certainly would not be wasting mine or anyone else’s time interviewing people for a job that was filled ‘all those’ weeks ago. Strangely I would consider that I might find better ways to occupy my time.

The cynic in me might even suggest that the timing (yesterday afternoon) of the breaking of the story below makes Lampard even more likely as it seemingly takes another front runner (Howe) out of the game. With Burnley surviving then I’d imagine Dyche is also unlikely, so if Roy is stepping down it’s not a reach to think that Lampard could be in the frame somewhere.

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According to a recent article in The Times Lampard is not under consideration.

 

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View Helmet46's Profile Helmet46 Flag Croydon 18 May 21 7.57am Send a Private Message to Helmet46 Add Helmet46 as a friend

Originally posted by BelfastEagle

According to a recent article in The Times Lampard is not under consideration.

Indeed - shows how close the club are keeping their cards as the Telegraph reckon he’s the front runner. We’ll probably find Roy will stay!

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 18 May 21 8.36am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Helmet46


The point being, of course, in that in a multi-million pound Company, this is unlikely to leak, hence the myriad of rumours and counter rumours and any comment from anyone outside of the inner sanctum (journalists, click baiters and ‘in the knows’ included) is, in my opinion, nothing more than an attempt at educated guesswork.

There are two types of leak. Firstly Parish has a few cronies that he uses if he wants to disseminate some snippets that he doesn't want to be directly attributable for and secondly there are quite a few people involved in negotiations other than Parish and the potential manager or player and it's often the agent who leaks potential deals.

The original story about Lampard supposedly came from someone who was at the training ground and saw Lampard being shown around. It may or may not be true but it is quite plausible.

Like yourself I don't often comment on these stories because quite frankly I am bored with these threads that just go round and round in circles and just wish they would get it over with

 

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Originally posted by Helmet46

Indeed - shows how close the club are keeping their cards as the Telegraph reckon he’s the front runner. We’ll probably find Roy will stay!

Or we'll appoint someone who has never even been mentioned.

Please God not Freedman

 

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View Helmet46's Profile Helmet46 Flag Croydon 18 May 21 8.48am Send a Private Message to Helmet46 Add Helmet46 as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Or we'll appoint someone who has never even been mentioned.

Please God not Freedman

And there I completely agree. Please not Freedman but I do have a nagging worry that just won’t go away. (And it’s not click bait or anything - just something in my head)!!!

 

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View AERO's Profile AERO Flag 18 May 21 8.52am Send a Private Message to AERO Add AERO as a friend

Lewington & Coleman ?

 

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My memory my be faulty but when we appointed Roy I don't think he was favourite I think I was surprised as he hadn't really been on the radar?

So maybe it will be someone from left field.

 


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Clinton Morrison - you heard it here first

 

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