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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Jun 21 4.54pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by fifainspected

If I remember correctly Klinnsman's time at Berlin ended in a fireball of him being a ridiculous human being with demands that the club wanted nothing to do with.

Klinsmann was only in charge of Hertha Berlin for 10 games.

 

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View talisman's Profile talisman Flag Kent 25 Jun 21 5.01pm Send a Private Message to talisman Add talisman as a friend

Originally posted by Orange1290


Switzerland is within the EEA, so enjoys many of the EU benefits such as freedom of movement. This is important in professional football as it means as a manager/trainer, bringing in players from any one of the 27 EU countries into Switzerland is a much, much easier task than bringing them into the UK which doesn't have that privilege.

That's actually incorrect. Switzerland is outside EU and EEA.

As an EFTA member, Switzerland took part in the negotiations for the EEA Agreement and signed the agreement on 2 May 1992. Immediately after that, the Swiss Government submitted an application for accession to the EU on 22 May 1992. However, following a referendum held on 6 December 1992 that yielded a vote against participating in the EEA, the Swiss Federal Council stopped pursuing the country’s EU and EEA membership.

Also, Switzerland walked out of talks with EU over further integration about 2 weeks ago.

"The European Economic Area (EEA)
The EEA includes EU countries and also Iceland, Liechtenstein and Norway. It allows them to be part of the EU’s single market.

Switzerland is not an EU or EEA member but is part of the single market. This means Swiss nationals have the same rights to live and work in the UK as other EEA nationals."

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View fifainspected's Profile fifainspected Flag Michigan - USA 25 Jun 21 5.02pm Send a Private Message to fifainspected Add fifainspected as a friend

From an article post his Berlin exit..

He attempted to pull the same moves at Hertha in a shorter timeframe, which is what led to his untimely exit. Just two months into his job, Klinsmann told his supervisors that he needed a multiple-year contract extension that granted him more control over the team’s operations. Preetz was understandably unwilling to give up some of his own duties to a man with such a shaky track record.

In a Facebook Live Q&A with fans, Klinsmann said that he doesn’t like the model of German football in general. Contrary to the existing system in which decision making is divided up among several roles and is often collaborative, Klinsmann prefers a system in which the manager has final say on all big decisions. He simply wasn’t willing to work under Preetz.

Klinsmann’s departure has caused chaos at Hertha, but that doesn’t mean everyone will be sad to see him go. During his time at the club, Klinsmann had “no footballing idea,” Steffen Rohr writes in Kicker. “The noise has increased, but the quality of play has not.” In a callback to his downfall as USMNT boss, Klinsmann surprisingly switched to a back three system in an embarrassing home loss to Mainz during his final match. Though the system fit his personnel fine, his team looked poorly coached, like they had no idea how to do what the boss had asked of them.

All of this is not to say that Klinsmann is worthless, or has no good ideas. Plenty of people who have worked with him at all of his previous jobs have heaped praise on him for the work he’s done behind the scenes.

But as a first team head coach, he is a scam artist of the highest order. It took Hertha’s board 76 days too long, but they figured out they were being scammed before it was too late. After this ordeal, it seems unlikely that another team of Hertha’s stature will fall for Klinsmann’s grift anytime soon.

 

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View Orange1290's Profile Orange1290 Flag 25 Jun 21 5.23pm Send a Private Message to Orange1290 Add Orange1290 as a friend

Originally posted by talisman

That's actually incorrect. Switzerland is outside EU and EEA.

As an EFTA member, Switzerland took part in the negotiations for the EEA Agreement and signed the agreement on 2 May 1992. Immediately after that, the Swiss Government submitted an application for accession to the EU on 22 May 1992. However, following a referendum held on 6 December 1992 that yielded a vote against participating in the EEA, the Swiss Federal Council stopped pursuing the country’s EU and EEA membership.

Also, Switzerland walked out of talks with EU over further integration about 2 weeks ago.

"The European Economic Area (EEA)
The EEA includes EU countries and also Iceland, Liechtenstein and Norway. It allows them to be part of the EU’s single market.

Switzerland is not an EU or EEA member but is part of the single market. This means Swiss nationals have the same rights to live and work in the UK as other EEA nationals."

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"Switzerland is not an EU or EEA member but is part of the single market. This means Swiss nationals have the same rights to live and work in the UK as other EEA nationals."

That's now out of date as the UK left the EU.

However, the main point is that Switzerland has an agreement with the EU for freedom of movement, which it does not have anymore with the UK:

"The bilateral Agreement on the free movement of persons (AFMP), signed in 1999 and into force since 2002, confers upon the citizens of Switzerland and of the member states of the European Union (EU) the right to freely choose their place of employment and residence within the national territories of the contracting parties."

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Originally posted by s2art1e

Jürgen Klinsman and his assistant Jogi Löw. Get them in.. &#129315;

Old scratch and sniff himself!
Who dares be the first to shake his hand!

 

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View manwitheagletattoo's Profile manwitheagletattoo Flag Somewhere in England 25 Jun 21 5.25pm Send a Private Message to manwitheagletattoo Add manwitheagletattoo as a friend

I really am at a lose as to why Favre after all intense and purposes agreed to become Palace manager and then strangely u turned

There is an interesting article from Read Everton by Alex Jones, it states that according to the Guardian Favre was actually going to sign early Thursday morning, the club Crystal Palace had even received confirmation that Favre had seen an application for his work permit approved, with multiple sources reporting that the Everton-linked tactician was all but certain to be taking up the vacant manager role at Selhurst Park.
So what has happen in that short space of time for him to turn us down, it really does smell fishy and it is plainly oblivious that Steve Parish thought he had Favre as manager. In my opinion knowing how the EU are so anti British after Brexit I do wonder if they had a quiet word, as I said in my opinion.

 


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View est1905's Profile est1905 Online Flag 25 Jun 21 5.31pm Send a Private Message to est1905 Add est1905 as a friend

Originally posted by orpingtoneagle

When will folks realise/accept we are not shopping in Waitrose we are shopping in Poundland.

A decent manager is a decent manager for a reason. They don't take on an impossible task.

Dougie will be announced shortly

What rubbish you talk. We may not be shopping in Harrods (City, Chelsea, United, Liverpool) or even Waitrose (Spuds, Arsenal, Everton) but we are attractive to any manager below that level. Top league football, best league in the world, top salary compared to all other European leagues AND based in London. Palace needs to use imagination like they did with the Favre idea and come up with a decent contender for the job. To hear you talk we'd be lucky to get the assistant manager at Crawley Town.
Cant stand so called Palace 'fans' that talk about the club as if its skint, crap and unattractive. If thats what you believe, go support Spuds. See how easy they are finding it getting a new manager in!

 

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View Orange1290's Profile Orange1290 Flag 25 Jun 21 5.31pm Send a Private Message to Orange1290 Add Orange1290 as a friend

Originally posted by manwitheagletattoo

I really am at a lose as to why Favre after all intense and purposes agreed to become Palace manager and then strangely u turned

There is an interesting article from Read Everton by Alex Jones, it states that according to the Guardian Favre was actually going to sign early Thursday morning, the club Crystal Palace had even received confirmation that Favre had seen an application for his work permit approved, with multiple sources reporting that the Everton-linked tactician was all but certain to be taking up the vacant manager role at Selhurst Park.
So what has happen in that short space of time for him to turn us down, it really does smell fishy and it is plainly oblivious that Steve Parish thought he had Favre as manager. In my opinion knowing how the EU are so anti British after Brexit I do wonder if they had a quiet word, as I said in my opinion.


The EU aren't "anti British", that's just a picture the brexiteers want to paint to cover up their own failings and divert from the disaster that brexit has been in real terms. Blame someone else for your own failings comes very much to mind.

 


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View Apollofuzz's Profile Apollofuzz Flag On the edge of reason 25 Jun 21 5.41pm Send a Private Message to Apollofuzz Add Apollofuzz as a friend

I disagree. They never vote for us in the Eurovision Song contest. Being Anti British can be the only reason. I rest my case

Originally posted by Orange1290


The EU aren't "anti British", that's just a picture the brexiteers want to paint to cover up their own failings and divert from the disaster that brexit has been in real terms. Blame someone else for your own failings comes very much to mind.

 


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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 25 Jun 21 5.42pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by manwitheagletattoo

I really am at a lose as to why Favre after all intense and purposes agreed to become Palace manager and then strangely u turned

There is an interesting article from Read Everton by Alex Jones, it states that according to the Guardian Favre was actually going to sign early Thursday morning, the club Crystal Palace had even received confirmation that Favre had seen an application for his work permit approved, with multiple sources reporting that the Everton-linked tactician was all but certain to be taking up the vacant manager role at Selhurst Park.
So what has happen in that short space of time for him to turn us down, it really does smell fishy and it is plainly oblivious that Steve Parish thought he had Favre as manager. In my opinion knowing how the EU are so anti British after Brexit I do wonder if they had a quiet word, as I said in my opinion.

I was nodding along with you until the last bit. I appreciate you have disclaimed it as just your opinion, but really, do you think the EU has now taken to secretly telling football managers not to work here?

Otherwise, I agree with you. He was plainly all set up to take the job but then changed his mind. Both the BBC and Guardian are certain that he genuinely doesn't feel he can muster the energy to work again, especially in a new league, country etc. Now, personally, I wouldn't rely on either of those media outlets to give me an objective assessment of the EU any more than I'd rely on your good self(!) but they are pretty reliable for that kind of football news.

I've been to job interviews before where I wasn't sure I wanted the job but wanted to fully understand the details before making my mind up. It looks like Favre wanted to hear us out completely, and once he did he was initially very keen, but then did a bit of soul searching and decided he couldn't fully commit.

At least he was, seemingly, honest about it. I'd far rather we be back to square one now than have him come here when his heart wasn't in it.

 

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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 25 Jun 21 5.52pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by manwitheagletattoo

I really am at a lose as to why Favre after all intense and purposes agreed to become Palace manager and then strangely u turned

There is an interesting article from Read Everton by Alex Jones, it states that according to the Guardian Favre was actually going to sign early Thursday morning, the club Crystal Palace had even received confirmation that Favre had seen an application for his work permit approved, with multiple sources reporting that the Everton-linked tactician was all but certain to be taking up the vacant manager role at Selhurst Park.
So what has happen in that short space of time for him to turn us down, it really does smell fishy and it is plainly oblivious that Steve Parish thought he had Favre as manager. In my opinion knowing how the EU are so anti British after Brexit I do wonder if they had a quiet word, as I said in my opinion.

Why would he take any notice of the EU, Switzerland arent in it.

 

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Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

At least he was, seemingly, honest about it. I'd far rather we be back to square one now than have him come here when his heart wasn't in it.

Yep, I agree with you on this BTP.

I was as disappointed as everybody else that Favre didn't sign, but I don't mind admitting I had concerns deep down that he might not last the distance.

He was a big name with a reasonable pedigree and there was always the risk that he'd either be poached or become frustrated at the small budget available to him.

Either way, he appears sincere in sounding us out, but decided the job wasn't for him at the moment. Much happier that he's decided against even if that gives Steve more sleepless nights.

We have to rely on the Chairman to do the right thing for our club.

 


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