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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 15 May 21 1.23pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

This whole completely foreseeable clusterf*ck over the Indian variant should have people seething. Can see restrictions remaining in place longer because of it. Genuinely staggered at the lack of anger towards the government for so many decisions (or more accurately lack of) that they’ve made during this whole sorry saga.

I agree with most of what you have said, I think there will be local ( if not national) lockdowns again. I have always said that IMO the biggest mistake the Government made was not closing the borders and this new variant proves it was the wrong decision. However I would not criticise the Government over the vaccine rollout, which has been well organised ( had my 2nd this morning) and has certainly left the EU wanting

 

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 15 May 21 1.25pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

I agree with most of what you have said, I think there will be local ( if not national) lockdowns again. I have always said that IMO the biggest mistake the Government made was not closing the borders and this new variant proves it was the wrong decision. However I would not criticise the Government over the vaccine rollout, which has been well organised ( had my 2nd this morning) and has certainly left the EU wanting

Yep, completely agree.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 15 May 21 1.26pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

This whole completely foreseeable clusterf*ck over the Indian variant should have people seething.* Can see restrictions remaining in place longer because of it. Genuinely staggered at the lack of anger towards the government for so many decisions (or more accurately lack of) that they’ve made during this whole sorry saga.

I know someone who lived in Bolton and knows the area the main hotspots have large Asian populations make of that what you will.

I agree about people seething my patience is running thin with people who wont get vaccinated by choice. The government is now targetting the hotspots and every adult in those areas should be offered the job asap.

If they decline then I have no sympathy.

As for the government if Boris just moves the July end date I think the country will be up in arms. To pacify me they would have to show that this Indian variant is dangerous even to people who have had the vaccination. Unless they can do that I am not prepared to restrict my lifestyle any more.

So as long as every adult has been offered the jab by July that should be the end of the restrictions. As for those who are at risk your choice not my problem.

*Yup should have closed the borders to India weeks before, mind you they just come via a third country. So much for taking back control of our borders.

Edited by Badger11 (15 May 2021 1.30pm)

 


One more point

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 22 May 21 10.14pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Only just seen this Twitter thread by Dominic Cummings ahead of his select committee appearance on Wednesday.

Really fascinating insight and some unsurprising revelations and scathing assessments of:

1) Herd immunity *was* official government policy until they realised it was too late and they chose to lie about it and press believed it

2) Following Sweden as an example was always bonkers - they have had more deaths and a worse economic impact than close neighbours who locked down

3) Data has been decisive in showing that hard and fast action was only success stories in terms of minimising deaths and economic important. The west should be more willing to learn from the east.

4) The culture of SW1 rewards loyalty over competence and MPs and civil servants not fit for purpose. People under qualified for important jobs naturally leads to failure. They’re also not interested in openness, even when in public interest, nor learning from mistakes, just spinning to minimise damage.

He does come across as an insufferable bellend but he certainly does look at data and cuts through it to get to the points rather than any political window dressing.

Wednesday will be interesting.


Edited by DanH (22 May 2021 10.16pm)

 

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 23 May 21 11.58am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Can’t believe big Dommy Cummings snuck out all this gold during Eurovision.

 

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View CPFC1965's Profile CPFC1965 Flag Warrington 23 May 21 12.15pm Send a Private Message to CPFC1965 Add CPFC1965 as a friend

Dom Cummings spilling the dirt on the government which he was a senior advisor in. Is this bloke a moron? The readings good but he's still complicit in it. Yawn !!!

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 23 May 21 12.20pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by CPFC1965

Dom Cummings spilling the dirt on the government which he was a senior advisor in. Is this bloke a moron? The readings good but he's still complicit in it. Yawn !!!


Last year "he's a liar he can't be trusted"

Next week "Cummings speaks for the nation he knows the truth about Boris and the Tory government"

Being serious for a moment Cummings will say that the government didn't have a plan and made up it as they went alone. I think we all guessed that anyway.

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 23 May 21 12.38pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11


Last year "he's a liar he can't be trusted"

Next week "Cummings speaks for the nation he knows the truth about Boris and the Tory government"

Being serious for a moment Cummings will say that the government didn't have a plan and made up it as they went alone. I think we all guessed that anyway.

I think the whole world did that and didn't have a plan. The fact hmg threw money at it is to their credit. There was ,as is and has been proved no time for a meeting about a meeting to get better vfm. Money is replacable. Life has one shot.

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 23 May 21 8.50pm Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

It will be a circus.
Everyone who hated him then will now be rooting for him and the media will take his side.
It is quite pathetic and unbecoming.
In the old days he would be hung for treason.

Edited by The Dolphin (23 May 2021 8.50pm)

 

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View ger20's Profile ger20 Flag London 23 May 21 8.58pm Send a Private Message to ger20 Add ger20 as a friend

Cummins is behaving like a woman scorned

 

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 23 May 21 9.20pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

When I read the title of this thread I thought it was about a p*** movie category (according to a friend).

 


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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 24 May 21 8.46am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Very politically unsettling that the major critic of Government, should come from its own ranks, rather than the Labour party.
Can anyone really believe anything that Cummings says, after his fairy-tale explanations of he and his family breaking Lockdown rules ?

They are all cut from the same cloth

 


"The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak

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