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View bifffabazz's Profile bifffabazz Flag Highworth, Wiltshire 09 May 21 10.26am Send a Private Message to bifffabazz Add bifffabazz as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Do you think players don’t get paid if they don’t play? How very 1800s of you!


The irony is patently lost on you.

Ftr, players do get match fees, bonus incentives and accumulating appearance pay outs. And while their weekly wages dwarf such payments, many are genuinely pee'd off to miss out. Much too much stall is given to it being all about pride.

 


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View Booted Eagle's Profile Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 09 May 21 10.55am Send a Private Message to Booted Eagle Add Booted Eagle as a friend

Makes sense as it would be a good plan for next season but there is still a question mark over the manager's position. Two seasons ago Roy's end of season chat was about securing league positions, last season for most of the presumption we fell off a cliff, hence no look at new areas of the team. Yesterday he praised both teams for giving it a go as they had nothing to really play for !?! Little odd as we needed to get the points to be mathematically safe, so who knows what is going on in his head.

 


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View braunstoneagle's Profile braunstoneagle Flag the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 09 May 21 11.05am Send a Private Message to braunstoneagle Add braunstoneagle as a friend

Originally posted by doombear

Hodgson made it very clear post-Sheff U that the most we can expect is one or two tweaks so as to give some players a rest but no wholesale changes and no giving a player a game for the sake of it. He was adamant about putting out a competitive team for each of the remaining games. He is right to say that. This is professional sport and the integrity of the league demands that clubs put out a team they think can get a result.

indeed...we were absolutely livid when pompey didnt try against wba and we went down, i wouldn't want us to do the same to a team potentially qualifying for europe.

however, that said i expect to see mitchell play all 4 remaining games as its clear pva is off, and i think we should start mateta over benteke to give him a run of games, harsh to drop benteke but mateta needs a decent chance.

 


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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 09 May 21 11.26am Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Would really like to see Mitchell keep his place and Mateta start, probably in place of Benteke.

I'm also impressed by what I've seen of Omilabu in the under 18s. Scored 20 goals this season. Maybe a tad early for him, but now we've got nothing to lose, why not.

 


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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 09 May 21 11.28am

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

Would really like to see Mitchell keep his place and Mateta start, probably in place of Benteke.

I'm also impressed by what I've seen of Omilabu in the under 18s. Scored 20 goals this season. Maybe a tad early for him, but now we've got nothing to lose, why not.

Agreed

 


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View thai-eagle's Profile thai-eagle Flag chiang mai 09 May 21 11.37am Send a Private Message to thai-eagle Add thai-eagle as a friend

Roy's negative approach to younger players is a reason good enough to change the gaffer.

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 09 May 21 12.47pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by thai-eagle

Roy's negative approach to younger players is a reason good enough to change the gaffer.


A lot of posters are convinced that Hodgson has a negative view of youngsters. IMO that's NOT true. Hodgson watches the youngsters regularly and calls up to 1st team training sessions those he thinks would benefit. He has already stated his admiration for Rak-Sakyi and has had Hannam on the 1st team bench for several games. He gave Dreher a cameo a couple of years ago and persevered with Mitchell, whom he rates despite early wobbles when he first came in by reason of PvA's injury. It took him time to pick Jairo regularly but then many posters on this site don't rate Jairo, so Hodgson's caution over using him was perhaps justified.

Hodgson is a very experienced and knowledgeable manager and IMO will play youngsters when they are ready to make the huge leap to PL football.

Have a listen some time to Andros's interview. he had some NINE loan spells at Spurs before he made the 1st team squad, several of them at Championship clubs and at least 1 at another PL club. Our players out on loan at lower league clubs struggle to get 1st team minutes.

I can't see Hodgson playing the kids in the remaining 4 games and rightly so IMO.

Edited by doombear (09 May 2021 12.47pm)

 

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View Crystal_Clear's Profile Crystal_Clear Flag Belfast 09 May 21 12.55pm Send a Private Message to Crystal_Clear Add Crystal_Clear as a friend

Now we are mathematically safe, what's the point in playing those out of contract and unlikely to stay.

Ie. PVA, Benteke.

Also, no point in taking up a space on bench either.

 

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View Mstrobez's Profile Mstrobez Flag 09 May 21 1.03pm Send a Private Message to Mstrobez Add Mstrobez as a friend

Originally posted by thai-eagle

Roy's negative approach to younger players is a reason good enough to change the gaffer.

Name me a single manager in the Premier League who has given more academy players their debut since Roy took over as manager? (For the record, it's 3).

And don't even give me the "he was forced to".

 


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View gonky's Profile gonky Flag Coulsdon 09 May 21 3.58pm Send a Private Message to gonky Add gonky as a friend

There is also the little matter of money for each position in the table so they are unlikely to make many changes.

 

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View Vaibow's Profile Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 09 May 21 4.21pm Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

You give fringe players and kids a run out, that taste, that desire will be burning for next year.. I would say even if we lose them all, give those a chance to taste it.

 


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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 09 May 21 4.31pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by gonky

There is also the little matter of money for each position in the table so they are unlikely to make many changes.

Why? As Midlands Eagle loves to point out, it's only £1m ish per place. What difference is that going to make? Wages for 3 months?

 


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