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View Fatherken's Profile Fatherken Flag 10 May 21 4.21pm Send a Private Message to Fatherken Add Fatherken as a friend

The bookies will make us favourites to go next seasons . They have done so for the pass 8 season so why will they change a habit of a life time .
I think as been said , a couple of new players plus the youngsters we will be OK

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 10 May 21 5.34pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Yes we do tend to be the one they cite to go down. Jermaine Jenas will also make the same claim on the BBC - he always does.

Meanwhile, every year the same lazy punditry will claim that the newly promoted 3 will be the ones to go down and waffle on about the gulf in class etc. when every year one or two promoted teams not only survive but actually do quite well. However...

I think that for once this is actually proving to be true. There genuinely is a gulf and the huge points tally amassed by Norwich and Watford will mean nothing when they come to play next season, especially if they decide to buy loads of new players who will take half a season to bed in.

while far too early to tell, of the 4 teams cited by the OP, Burnley probably most likely as things stand.

 

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View pompeyeagle's Profile pompeyeagle Flag Relocated to Shropshire 10 May 21 9.57pm Send a Private Message to pompeyeagle Add pompeyeagle as a friend

Originally posted by Fatherken

The bookies will make us favourites to go next seasons . They have done so for the pass 8 season so why will they change a habit of a life time .
I think as been said , a couple of new players plus the youngsters we will be OK

That’s just not true! You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about! Do you even look at the odds at the start of a season?
Clearly not.

 

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View Elwissthebest's Profile Elwissthebest Flag Marlborough 11 May 21 1.13pm Send a Private Message to Elwissthebest Add Elwissthebest as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

Define '' established '' ? Outside of the top 6-8 clubs it's becoming an annual race to get to 40 points.

I'm baffled that people are tipping us to go down next season when we haven't even finished this one yet and we all know there is potentially a lot of change will occur in the summer.

By 'established', I would understand: 'most unlikely to be relegated'. I wouldn't have thought that as many as 12--14 clubs were likely relegation candidates each year.
I'm not saying I think we'll be relegated next year. If anything, my question is: 'why, after eight consecutive seasons in the top flight, are we not regarded as certainties to stay up?'
To avoid relegation, ten wins should suffice, because in securing those, eight draws will be picked up along the way. 38 points is generally enough. The crucial thing is to win the games against the teams thought weaker than us. Say: the three teams to come up from the Championship (Leeds this season were exceptional, Sheff. Utd last), plus three others, say: Brighton, Burnley, Newcastle. Each game against any of these is a 'six pointer'. These are , if you like, 'super games', because, in winning them, we take the three points, and, obviously, prevent the opposition from taking any. So in this sense it is more important to beat Norwich than Man City, because we are not in competition with the latter- unless we think of ourselves as possible Premiership winners or European qualifiers. Of course, beating Man City is more enjoyable than beating Norwich, but my point is, it is not as important. If, from the twelve games against the perceived six weaker teams, we take, say, 30 points, we are well on the road to survival. But as you say, it might not be as bleak as that. We might comfortably finish mid-table.

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View ambrose7's Profile ambrose7 Flag Croydon 11 May 21 1.56pm Send a Private Message to ambrose7 Add ambrose7 as a friend

16 of the points we've taken this season have just been relegated, and we'd do well to take 16 off the promoted teams next year, so the likelihood is we are we are going to have to up our game against the other 16 remaining teams next year.

Having said that, we'll clear out a lot of dead wood this summer which gives us the chance to put together a far more competitive squad.

Sakho, Dann, Wickham, Hennessey, Van Aanholt alone is about £15m/year. If Hannan gets promoted from the 23s to back-up Mitchell, Dann is the only one of them that's played any game time that needs replacing - otherwise it's free cash. We'll likely be one of the few clubs near the bottom end of the league with the room to be flexible this summer which allows us to focus on what we need and be competitive.

 


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