Out of our previous players players who've gone on to manage UK national teams, Venables, Southgate, and Coleman have gone on to reach semi finals of major tournaments.

That's objectively more successful than being eliminated in the first round after failing to win a game, or being knocked out in the 2nd round losing to a country of a population of 300,000 (tesco's have more 50% more employees).

Whilst I admire some fans loyalty to our manager. I do feel other options get dismissed for minor blemishes earlier in their career, whilst the incumbents failings are willfully ignored.

I'd have questions over Southgate's ability to manage on a day to day basis, but his root and branch reform of the England set up has been pioneering in English International football. Either way, he's not leaving England, to it's all theoretical.

Yes, one big reason.
He has an absolutely terrible record in management.
Don't be fooled by his little run with Wales. None of that would have happened without Gareth Bale.

International managers rely on clubs to bring through their players considering the number of players in English football at all levels it's not difficult to find 22 for a squad. I feel sorry for managers of smaller nations who probably rely on a once in a generation star player and it's bad luck if its not on their watch.

The only job the IM has to do is find a system that suits the players or pick the players to suit the system. After that the players know what they need to do they are all they are experienced at the senior level.

Frankly I am amazed ah how poorly England has been over the last 50 odd years for a country our size semi finals is par with the odd tournament win.

Southgate has done okay but I think being a club manager is much harder. Neither him or Coleman were anything special at club level.