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View grumpymort's Profile grumpymort Flag US/Thailand/UK 08 Feb 24 9.38am Send a Private Message to grumpymort Add grumpymort as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

The above is arguably the most ridiculous post ever made on HOL - and the bar is so high.


Ridiculous to someone uneducated on the subject like yourself.

Maybe you should stick to only reading the made up stories from the likes of Daily Mail rather then posting comments here.

 


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Originally posted by grumpymort

Ridiculous to someone uneducated on the subject like yourself.

Maybe you should stick to only reading the made up stories from the likes of Daily Mail rather then posting comments here.

You know nothing of my education and I don't read any newspapers.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 08 Feb 24 11.04am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

the business of Cancer

 


Eze Peasy at Anfield....

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 08 Feb 24 11.32am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Almost everyone has a friend or close relative (if not themselves) who has been impacted

None-the-less, this Derek and Clive skit always makes me smile.

(probably not Safe for work.)

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 08 Feb 24 11.36am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

As an aside, I think it a bit thoughtless of The Palace to release limited information on the King, but then not give details.
They shouldn't have said anything, if they are now going to be secretive about it.

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 08 Feb 24 11.51am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

As an aside, I think it a bit thoughtless of The Palace to release limited information on the King, but then not give details.
They shouldn't have said anything, if they are now going to be secretive about it.

we all know cancer can be a very personal thing. I took a mild offence when an acquaintance once asked a terminal-relative 'where exactly is your cancer ?''

the irony being that modest prudishness is what keeps people away from the doctor. Not liking to be told to take their pants off. And that same prudishness can take ten or twenty years off your life.

regarding Cancer, its best to be like the Scandinavians, shameless and proud in their nudity. Warts and all.

Some people have dodgy symptoms for five or ten years before they present to a doctor.

 


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Originally posted by grumpymort


More made up stats.

Every person has cancer we do not know the cause of what triggers it.

The last statement is nonsense how do you prevent if you do not know the cause.

You are making the same claims that you hear when people go on about risk which is a cause/effect statement.

Do we need to consume alcohol NO the same with sugar also the same with eating multi times a day (do all of these contribute towards cancer unknown no experiment has been conducted and never will)

Cancer is big $$$ we really have not treatment wise progressed with it you hear about all these treatment etc it's BS.

Charities are pretty much scams with odd one here or their which tend to be smaller ones being really legit.

Final thing I don't trust a single thing the Royals put out they always have some sort of agenda.

The obvious problem with cancer is that if you are cured, you are no longer a customer.
Pharmaceutical companies make profit from repeat doses and inoculations. Curing people is not particularly profitable.

I have always thought that if there was a big financial benefit, then cancer treatments would far more effective than they are.

Maybe I'm just a cynic.

 

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The obvious problem with cancer is that if you are cured, you are no longer a customer.
Pharmaceutical companies make profit from repeat doses and inoculations. Curing people is not particularly profitable.

I have always thought that if there was a big financial benefit, then cancer treatments would far more effective than they are.

Maybe I'm just a cynic.


It's not cynical it's the truth.


 


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Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

Firstly sitdownstandup, sympathies to you and your family if you've been touched by cancer. Unfortunately the word itself seems to scare people more than the illness itself. The worst is when young folk are affected, then it's really hard.

I scanned through the film. Didn't watch it all, but got the drift. Personally I don't buy it. In my experience treatments for cancer are improving all the time.

Won't bore you with the all the gory details, suffice to say I was diagnosed with two cancers in 2013. One, Prostate, was treatable; the other Myeloma is basically incurable. At the time my Consultant told me the prognosis was that I'd maybe have another 3 or 4 years. After loads of radiotherapy, chemotherapy and 2 dreadful stem cell transplants, I'm still around.

The diagnosis of and treatment for Prostate C has improved drastically in just the eight years since I first knew about mine. The antibody drugs they use for Myeloma are light years ahead of where things were. They started me with Thalidomide. Didn't touch it.

So, like I say, I don't go along with the fact that money is being wasted trying to find treatments. It isn’t. The medics and scientists in this country are amazing. You only have to look at how quickly they were able to find acceptable vaccines for Covid.

So, for what it's worth all I'd say to you is, have faith in the doctors who are involved with your family. They will find the most acceptable way to deal with what you're all going through.

All the best.

I was diagnosed with prostate cancer in 2010. After a prostatectomy and being told I was cancer free it came back. Radiotherapy reduced it to nothing again but now it’s back again. Where it is remains uncertain so I must wait until it can be seen.

It’s a s***e but you learn to live with it. I have had it now for 14 years and at 80 am still active and living a very full life. It’s not going to stop me. Not yet anyway! There are new treatments being developed all the time.

1 in 2 of us will develop some form of cancer during our lifetime. It’s part of life. Not necessarily the end of it.

It’s a million miles away from something like Covid, which we could and did respond to very swiftly. Beating cancer is a rather longer process although there is great promise that the Mrna technology that proved so vital in overcoming Covid could also play a significant role in defeating some of them.

 


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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The obvious problem with cancer is that if you are cured, you are no longer a customer.
Pharmaceutical companies make profit from repeat doses and inoculations. Curing people is not particularly profitable.

I have always thought that if there was a big financial benefit, then cancer treatments would far more effective than they are.

Maybe I'm just a cynic.

Yes you are.

Drugs need licences to be marketed and doctors to prescribe them. Competition ensures that only things that work get used and society demands cures not hospitals full of sick people being treated.

 


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Well despite all our differences I'm sure we all wish you well with this.

 


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I read that the wolves around Chernobyl are cancer resistant.
It’s on the net.

 

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