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Phil’s Barber Crowborough 12 Jul 21 10.19pm
Originally posted by Hannes Am I wrong or didn't Rashford hit the left-side post from a pen when we played ManU two years ago? (ManU-Palace 1:2, 08/2019)? Was my last (even more) away-game I visited ..... My goodness, yes, you are right. I had completely forgotten but now you have mentioned it I do remember a Rashford penalty miss in that game. I had to watch the YouTube footage of the spot kick again to see which post he hit but your memory is spot on, he hit the same upright but about half way up on that occasion, same short steps stutter in his run up too.
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Originally posted by Hannes

Am I wrong or didn't Rashford hit the left-side post from a pen when we played ManU two years ago? (ManU-Palace 1:2, 08/2019)? Was my last (even more) away-game I visited .....

My goodness, yes, you are right.

I had completely forgotten but now you have mentioned it I do remember a Rashford penalty miss in that game.

I had to watch the YouTube footage of the spot kick again to see which post he hit but your memory is spot on, he hit the same upright but about half way up on that occasion, same short steps stutter in his run up too.

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Phil’s Barber Crowborough 12 Jul 21 10.30pm
Originally posted by Sir James Hird I love my country of birth and always will. I love my football team I always will. Today I am deeply embarrassed and ashamed at the scum posing as English football supporters Nothing justifies kicking a man when he is down. Yes on all points. Well said. Those yobs are not 'fans' or supporters of a football match. They made the occasion an excuse to get drunk and create mayhem. Must have been frightening for anyone accidentally caught up in it. Their behaviour was/is an embarrassment for our country as a whole and it brings shame on all true football supporters. Agreed but The FA and Wembley National Stadium Ltd. also need to take a long hard look at themselves and furthermore explain why they were so woefully under resourced with stewards, and relevant security measures outside the stadium and police numbers and stewards inside the stadium. A) To prevent ticketless supporters getting anywhere near the outer concourses and… B) Not having the necessary resources within the stadium to deal with the matter properly once they had got inside. The comments and replies on this FA tweet give some insight into how poorly organised the FA and Wembley Stadium were.for the game. [Tweet Link] Edited by Phil’s Barber (13 Jul 2021 8.29am)
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Originally posted by Sir James Hird

I love my country of birth and always will. I love my football team I always will.
Today I am deeply embarrassed and ashamed at the scum posing as English football supporters
Nothing justifies kicking a man when he is down.

Yes on all points. Well said.

Those yobs are not 'fans' or supporters of a football match. They made the occasion an excuse to get drunk and create mayhem. Must have been frightening for anyone accidentally caught up in it.

Their behaviour was/is an embarrassment for our country as a whole and it brings shame on all true football supporters.

Agreed but The FA and Wembley National Stadium Ltd. also need to take a long hard look at themselves and furthermore explain why they were so woefully under resourced with stewards, and relevant security measures outside the stadium and police numbers and stewards inside the stadium.

A) To prevent ticketless supporters getting anywhere near the outer concourses and…
B) Not having the necessary resources within the stadium to deal with the matter properly once they had got inside.

The comments and replies on this FA tweet give some insight into how poorly organised the FA and Wembley Stadium were.for the game.

[Tweet Link]

Edited by Phil’s Barber (13 Jul 2021 8.29am)

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dreamwaverider London 13 Jul 21 1.23am
Originally posted by Badger11 The did well to reach the final it's just annoying that the manager and team failed to learn the lesson of 2018 against Croatia. You should not sit back when you get a goal try and finish the game off without being suicidal. we played well for the 20 minutes after the goal but you could see the Italians were just working us out after that we were on the back foot and the better team won in the end. Kane should have come off at half time for some reason he started really well and then ran out of steam. If I was Spurs I would cash in on Kane now. Rashford should not have been in the squad he lost form in the second half of the season at United and didn't deserve to be there. Henderson should not have gone. We've now had to great chances to win largely because we had favourable draws and we have blown it. I can't get excited about this team which is efficient but not entertaining in tournament football. Hats off to GS. losing a final on penalties was a hell of an achievement. Just can’t help wondering what would happen if Guardiola was coach? Edited by dreamwaverider (13 Jul 2021 1.24am)
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Originally posted by Badger11

The did well to reach the final it's just annoying that the manager and team failed to learn the lesson of 2018 against Croatia. You should not sit back when you get a goal try and finish the game off without being suicidal.

we played well for the 20 minutes after the goal but you could see the Italians were just working us out after that we were on the back foot and the better team won in the end.

Kane should have come off at half time for some reason he started really well and then ran out of steam. If I was Spurs I would cash in on Kane now.

Rashford should not have been in the squad he lost form in the second half of the season at United and didn't deserve to be there. Henderson should not have gone.

We've now had to great chances to win largely because we had favourable draws and we have blown it.

I can't get excited about this team which is efficient but not entertaining in tournament football.

Hats off to GS. losing a final on penalties was a hell of an achievement. Just can’t help wondering what would happen if Guardiola was coach?

Edited by dreamwaverider (13 Jul 2021 1.24am)

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sickboy Deal or Croydon 13 Jul 21 4.39am
Originally posted by dreamwaverider Hats off to GS. losing a final on penalties was a hell of an achievement. Just can’t help wondering what would happen if Guardiola was coach? Edited by dreamwaverider (13 Jul 2021 1.24am) We'd be world champions as well as European champions.
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Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Hats off to GS. losing a final on penalties was a hell of an achievement. Just can’t help wondering what would happen if Guardiola was coach?

Edited by dreamwaverider (13 Jul 2021 1.24am)

We'd be world champions as well as European champions.

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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 13 Jul 21 7.44am
Originally posted by sickboy We'd be world champions as well as European champions. Lions led by Donkey “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn
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Originally posted by sickboy

We'd be world champions as well as European champions.

Lions led by Donkey

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

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Frickin Saweet South Cronx 13 Jul 21 12.26pm
Originally posted by Sir James Hird I love my country of birth and always will. I love my football team I always will. Today I am deeply embarrassed and ashamed at the scum posing as English football supporters Nothing justifies kicking a man when he is down. Yes on all points. Well said. Those yobs are not 'fans' or supporters of a football match. They made the occasion an excuse to get drunk and create mayhem. Must have been frightening for anyone accidentally caught up in it. Their behaviour was/is an embarrassment for our country as a whole and it brings shame on all true football supporters. I've only seen one video of a fella being kicked when he was down, and that was one of the scumbags who bundled through a disabled entrance to force his way into the stadium without a ticket. I have no sympathy for him or any of the other scum who got t***ted by the fans inside who were helping the security staff push them back. I've also seen an edited down version of the same video shared on social media claiming that it is England fans kicking an Italy fan, so there is a lot of misinformation being shared. Blokes will always fight but what shocked me most was that there is a video of the same breach from the outside and there's a dad with a really young kid in his arms trying to bundle in. I can't get my head around what sort of person walks their child into a situation like that. However, all of this was predictable, fans without tickets jumping turnstiles happens in club football all the time, so it's a massive failure of policing to let it happen at Wembley. I wouldn't take my kids to an England match at Wembley, which is really sad.
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Originally posted by Sir James Hird

Yes on all points. Well said.

Those yobs are not 'fans' or supporters of a football match. They made the occasion an excuse to get drunk and create mayhem. Must have been frightening for anyone accidentally caught up in it.

Their behaviour was/is an embarrassment for our country as a whole and it brings shame on all true football supporters.

I've only seen one video of a fella being kicked when he was down, and that was one of the scumbags who bundled through a disabled entrance to force his way into the stadium without a ticket. I have no sympathy for him or any of the other scum who got t***ted by the fans inside who were helping the security staff push them back.

I've also seen an edited down version of the same video shared on social media claiming that it is England fans kicking an Italy fan, so there is a lot of misinformation being shared.

Blokes will always fight but what shocked me most was that there is a video of the same breach from the outside and there's a dad with a really young kid in his arms trying to bundle in. I can't get my head around what sort of person walks their child into a situation like that.

However, all of this was predictable, fans without tickets jumping turnstiles happens in club football all the time, so it's a massive failure of policing to let it happen at Wembley. I wouldn't take my kids to an England match at Wembley, which is really sad.

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jeeagles 13 Jul 21 4.54pm
Originally posted by Phil’s Barber Agreed but The FA and Wembley National Stadium Ltd. also need to take a long hard look at themselves and furthermore explain why they were so woefully under resourced with stewards, and relevant security measures outside the stadium and police numbers and stewards inside the stadium. A) To prevent ticketless supporters getting anywhere near the outer concourses and… B) Not having the necessary resources within the stadium to deal with the matter properly once they had got inside. The comments and replies on this FA tweet give some insight into how poorly organised the FA and Wembley Stadium were.for the game. [Tweet Link] Edited by Phil’s Barber (13 Jul 2021 8.29am) The FA were well aware that a large number of supporters without tickets turning up to "soak up the atmosphere" was always foreseeable. Nothing was done to deter this prior to kick off by the FA or Police. In videos I saw people around the stadium were all drinking out of tins, I doubt anyone did anything to cut the sale of alcohol nearby. There are clear inadequacies and the authorities are now trying to shift the blame. The likelihood of people without tickets trying to enter the ground was likely to be increased as a residual consequence of having strict limits on the numbers allowed into the stadium and surrounding bars. Similar issues occurred at Trafalgar Sq. Perhaps relaxing social distancing restrictions on pubs for the night may have helped? I was offered a ticket for £512 face value. Seems like the FA are happy to fill their own pockets but didn't pay for enough security.
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Originally posted by Phil’s Barber

The comments and replies on this FA tweet give some insight into how poorly organised the FA and Wembley Stadium were.for the game.

[Tweet Link]

Edited by Phil’s Barber (13 Jul 2021 8.29am)

The FA were well aware that a large number of supporters without tickets turning up to "soak up the atmosphere" was always foreseeable.

Nothing was done to deter this prior to kick off by the FA or Police.

In videos I saw people around the stadium were all drinking out of tins, I doubt anyone did anything to cut the sale of alcohol nearby.

There are clear inadequacies and the authorities are now trying to shift the blame.

The likelihood of people without tickets trying to enter the ground was likely to be increased as a residual consequence of having strict limits on the numbers allowed into the stadium and surrounding bars.

Similar issues occurred at Trafalgar Sq. Perhaps relaxing social distancing restrictions on pubs for the night may have helped?

I was offered a ticket for £512 face value. Seems like the FA are happy to fill their own pockets but didn't pay for enough security.

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CrazyBadger Ware 13 Jul 21 5.20pm
Originally posted by dreamwaverider Hats off to GS. losing a final on penalties was a hell of an achievement. Just can’t help wondering what would happen if Guardiola was coach? Edited by dreamwaverider (13 Jul 2021 1.24am) .....I guess you didn't watch the CL Final then?! "It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"
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Ware 13 Jul 21 5.20pm

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Hats off to GS. losing a final on penalties was a hell of an achievement. Just can’t help wondering what would happen if Guardiola was coach?

Edited by dreamwaverider (13 Jul 2021 1.24am)

.....I guess you didn't watch the CL Final then?!

"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 14 Jul 21 11.46am
I presume someone has said it, probably a lot of people, but can we please never, ever, hear 'football's coming home' ever again. It's not big and it's not clever. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 14 Jul 21 11.46am

I presume someone has said it, probably a lot of people, but can we please never, ever, hear 'football's coming home' ever again. It's not big and it's not clever.

Red and Blue Army!

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nettletoneagle market rasen 14 Jul 21 1.12pm
Has it finished yet? Who won?
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Has it finished yet?
Who won?

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 14 Jul 21 1.19pm
Originally posted by nettletoneagle Has it finished yet? Who won? I was going to post 'Mickey Mouse Cup' last night but I thought: too soon. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 14 Jul 21 1.19pm

Originally posted by nettletoneagle

Has it finished yet?
Who won?

I was going to post 'Mickey Mouse Cup' last night but I thought: too soon.

Red and Blue Army!

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Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 14 Jul 21 1.29pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC I presume someone has said it, probably a lot of people, but can we please never, ever, hear 'football's coming home' ever again. It's not big and it's not clever. I haven't heard anyone say it, but I totally agree with you. It was a rubbish concept and just made England and their fans look foolish. All because it is generally thought the game was started here. Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.
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Originally posted by ASCPFC

I presume someone has said it, probably a lot of people, but can we please never, ever, hear 'football's coming home' ever again. It's not big and it's not clever.

I haven't heard anyone say it, but I totally agree with you. It was a rubbish concept and just made England and their fans look foolish.

All because it is generally thought the game was started here.

Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

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