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Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 14 Jun 21 8.20pm
Originally posted by YT Maybe they are predicting that England will end up with egg on their faces....plus milk and sugar. Ha ha, you might be on to something YT. Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.
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Originally posted by YT

Maybe they are predicting that England will end up with egg on their faces....plus milk and sugar.

Ha ha, you might be on to something YT.

Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

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Teddy Eagle 14 Jun 21 8.22pm
Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer Yep, crazy. When did 'assists' become such a major feature anyway? I'm sure in the olden days we just used to discuss a nice pass rather than give a player part credit for a goal. I saw one the other day - attempted tackles. I could play against Messi and attempt 1000 tackles without ever getting the ball. We�ve had a few defenders over the years who could do well in this category.
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14 Jun 21 8.22pm

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

Yep, crazy. When did 'assists' become such a major feature anyway? I'm sure in the olden days we just used to discuss a nice pass rather than give a player part credit for a goal.

I saw one the other day - attempted tackles. I could play against Messi and attempt 1000 tackles without ever getting the ball.
We�ve had a few defenders over the years who could do well in this category.

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YT Oxford 15 Jun 21 12.22pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle It amused me that the player the ball came off to go to Schick was credited with an �assist�. It's just one example of how ridiculous football has become, sadly. I mean an "assist" FFS...players being celebrated for 5 "assists" in a season etc. My primary school football teacher (surely the inspiration for Ron Bassett) is surely turning in his grave! Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 15 Jun 21 12.22pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

It amused me that the player the ball came off to go to Schick was credited with an �assist�.

It's just one example of how ridiculous football has become, sadly. I mean an "assist" FFS...players being celebrated for 5 "assists" in a season etc. My primary school football teacher (surely the inspiration for Ron Bassett) is surely turning in his grave!

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

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Teddy Eagle 15 Jun 21 1.32pm
According to this site Wilf achieved two �assists� last season. These stats are obviously meaningless but someone must be paying attention to them. [Link]
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Teddy Eagle

15 Jun 21 1.32pm

According to this site Wilf achieved two �assists� last season.
These stats are obviously meaningless but someone must be paying attention to them.

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Stooge 15 Jun 21 1.46pm
I think they�ll keep edging games one nil until they meet a decent team, when they�ll get stuffed. Anybody remember Harry Kane having a good international?
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Stooge

15 Jun 21 1.46pm

I think they�ll keep edging games one nil until they meet a decent team, when they�ll get stuffed.
Anybody remember Harry Kane having a good international?

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steeleye20 Croydon 15 Jun 21 2.03pm
We can go a long way here, if only because favourites are drawn together. I think quarter finals possibly semis not sure if Trippier Stones McGuire etc. are great technically. Been watching the Schick goal really brilliant.
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steeleye20

Croydon 15 Jun 21 2.03pm

We can go a long way here, if only because favourites are drawn together.

I think quarter finals possibly semis not sure if Trippier Stones McGuire etc. are great technically.

Been watching the Schick goal really brilliant.

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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 15 Jun 21 2.17pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle I saw one the other day - attempted tackles. I could play against Messi and attempt 1000 tackles without ever getting the ball. We�ve had a few defenders over the years who could do well in this category. You obviously need to track attempted tackles in order to work out a tackle success rate, which is fairly useful in comparing defenders. Interestingly (or not!) I read that Wan-Bissaka has been the leading player in Europe at this for four consecutive seasons. You are right that attempted tackles is a nonsense statistic on it's own though. Another one I found interesting; 285 players made 50+ tackles in Europe's top five leagues last season, the top two for 'true' tackle success were; Tyrick Mithcell - 74.42% Aaron Wan-Bissaka - 73.95% *True tackle success means you won back posession of the ball, as opposed to making a successful tackle which goes off for a throw-in etc.
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

You obviously need to track attempted tackles in order to work out a tackle success rate, which is fairly useful in comparing defenders. Interestingly (or not!) I read that Wan-Bissaka has been the leading player in Europe at this for four consecutive seasons. You are right that attempted tackles is a nonsense statistic on it's own though.

Another one I found interesting;

285 players made 50+ tackles in Europe's top five leagues last season, the top two for 'true' tackle success were;

Tyrick Mithcell - 74.42%
Aaron Wan-Bissaka - 73.95%

*True tackle success means you won back posession of the ball, as opposed to making a successful tackle which goes off for a throw-in etc.

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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 15 Jun 21 2.20pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 We can go a long way here, if only because favourites are drawn together. I think quarter finals possibly semis not sure if Trippier Stones McGuire etc. are great technically. Been watching the Schick goal really brilliant. If we top our group (which is v likely now we've beaten Croatia), we run into 2nd place from Portgual/France/Germany in the last 16, so we're very much a 'victim' of the draw as opposed to a beneficiary. Sides like Spain and Belgium have much better routes to the later stages (assuming they top their groups).
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SE19 15 Jun 21 2.20pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

We can go a long way here, if only because favourites are drawn together.

I think quarter finals possibly semis not sure if Trippier Stones McGuire etc. are great technically.

Been watching the Schick goal really brilliant.

If we top our group (which is v likely now we've beaten Croatia), we run into 2nd place from Portgual/France/Germany in the last 16, so we're very much a 'victim' of the draw as opposed to a beneficiary.

Sides like Spain and Belgium have much better routes to the later stages (assuming they top their groups).

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YT Oxford 15 Jun 21 4.15pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 We can go a long way here, if only because favourites are drawn together. I think quarter finals possibly semis not sure if Trippier Stones McGuire etc. are great technically. Been watching the Schick goal really brilliant. See, I don't think it was a brilliant goal. The keeper basically made it an open goal. The scorer noticed during the first half that this was the case, so when he took advantage of it, it was a calculated choice and not s spur of the moment thing. Plus surely any professional footballer being paid thousands a week should be able to float a ball into a goal from the half-way line. In summary; it was poor decision-making by the goalkeeper and an abject failure by the coaches to tell the goalie to...err...protect his goal. Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 15 Jun 21 4.15pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

We can go a long way here, if only because favourites are drawn together.

I think quarter finals possibly semis not sure if Trippier Stones McGuire etc. are great technically.

Been watching the Schick goal really brilliant.

See, I don't think it was a brilliant goal. The keeper basically made it an open goal. The scorer noticed during the first half that this was the case, so when he took advantage of it, it was a calculated choice and not s spur of the moment thing. Plus surely any professional footballer being paid thousands a week should be able to float a ball into a goal from the half-way line.

In summary; it was poor decision-making by the goalkeeper and an abject failure by the coaches to tell the goalie to...err...protect his goal.

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

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Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 15 Jun 21 5.47pm
Watching the Portugal game and it struck me that Ronaldo really doesn't look much older than when we first saw him at Man U. Not quite as sharp as he was though. He's missed a couple so far (first half). But, still a great athlete. Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.
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Palace Old Geezer

Midhurst 15 Jun 21 5.47pm

Watching the Portugal game and it struck me that Ronaldo really doesn't look much older than when we first saw him at Man U.

Not quite as sharp as he was though. He's missed a couple so far (first half). But, still a great athlete.

Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 15 Jun 21 6.33pm
Agree P. O. G. Is it me, or is the Hungarian Manager, Ollie's brother? I'm a blind man, i'm a blind man, now my room is cold, When a blind man cries, Lord, he feels it from his soul. [Link]
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