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Badger11 Beckenham 14 Jun 21 9.05am | |
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Succession planning is almost impossible. Let's say your current manager is in place but may retire in the next 2 years so you have a shortlist ready for that day: 1. You have your eye on a young up and coming manager so far he looks great, then he has a mare and you lose interest in him. 2. An experienced manager has indicated he is interested and so are you. Come the day and you realise that he used your interest to get a new contract or he has recently started another job or he was just full of BS and never wanted to some to Palace. (Dyche) 3. Manager interviewed goes away to think about it and we are gazumped by another PL club (Howe going to Burnley). And so on. To sum up Parish probably has a short list which will change with the fortunes of those on it. None of this mean anything until you actually have a vacancy at which point you may discover that none of your preferred names are available for whatever reason. I suspect that something like this has happened so now we need a new shortlist. Edited by Badger11 (14 Jun 2021 9.05am) Edited by Badger11 (14 Jun 2021 9.07am)
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jeeagles 14 Jun 21 9.35am | |
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Originally posted by Vincehair
Parish has done a great job, but choosing managers has always been the Achilles heel. Being critical at this stage is unhelpful to that process, frustrating though it may be Depends who you benchmark him against. We've certainly done a better job in terms of managers than Watford and Brighton who are the best two sides to draw a direct comparison with. Numerous others have fallen by the wayside since 2010 when we were 40th in the league system and unsustainable, now we are consistently around 15th pretty solid. At the time all appointments on paper were fairly sensible. Warnock and Hodgson were both put in with mitigating circumstance. Holloway and Pardew get the most criticism but were both poached from clubs higher in the league and delivered relative success. With the 13 players out of contract. Henderson, Wickham, Woods, Hennessey are surplus to requirements. 7 out of the remaining 9 are over 30 and none are vital 1st team players. Personally, I wouldn't bother renewing PVA's contract with Mitchell and Reidewald able to play in his position. It's unlikely Ward/Clyne will leave unless a replacement is signed so right back is covered. I think Schlupp and Townsend will sign new deals. That brings the total down to 4. McCarthy has looked tidy but always injured - no big issue. Sakho/Dann/Cahill aren't all required - no need to panic.
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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 14 Jun 21 9.37am | |
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To err is human and, therefore, Parish has made mistakes. He admitted some in WED. Like others, I'm glad he's a Palace fan and believe he wants the best for our club. Also like others, I'm becoming increasingly frustrated at the apparent lack of progress on the manager front. How much of that is down to Parish? I don't know. As for the player contract situation. we've spent the last four years trying to survive on seasoned pros with relatively short shelf lives, purportedly due to financial constraints. We started trying to move forward from that last summer but frustratingly our two young arrivals have suffered serious injuries which have increased our player recruitment needs.
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taylors lovechild 14 Jun 21 10.06am | |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
With the 13 players out of contract. Henderson, Wickham, Woods, Hennessey are surplus to requirements. 7 out of the remaining 9 are over 30 and none are vital 1st team players. Personally, I wouldn't bother renewing PVA's contract with Mitchell and Reidewald able to play in his position. It's unlikely Ward/Clyne will leave unless a replacement is signed so right back is covered. I think Schlupp and Townsend will sign new deals. That brings the total down to 4. McCarthy has looked tidy but always injured - no big issue. Sakho/Dann/Cahill aren't all required - no need to panic. I think that's a very good point about the out of contract players, although I do think it is important we at least tie Townsend and Schlupp down sooner rather than later as they have been good servants to the club and I'm pretty sure we can't afford to replace them.
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Elwissthebest Marlborough 14 Jun 21 1.26pm | |
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The O.P. has a fair point, and this should be a forum for an exchange of views without feeling that there are only certain things that are allowed to be said.
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lefty27 ipswich 14 Jun 21 2.02pm | |
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Originally posted by Elwissthebest
The O.P. has a fair point, and this should be a forum for an exchange of views without feeling that there are only certain things that are allowed to be said. Football is a unique business as SP says in WED. I think he has done a fantastic job for us and what makes me laugh is when you and others say things like ‘pass the baton’ what do you mean? Sell the club? To who?
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Hrolf The Ganger 14 Jun 21 2.09pm | |
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The never blame Parish disease has been in existence for many years now on the various Palace sites. It is fair to say that his record speaks for itself in terms of promotion and keeping us up, but one cannot help but feel that his over careful attitude and occasional naivety has also held us back at times. If he sorts out the contract issues and signs some quality players this Summer, which keeps us up once again, then he will get my vote going forward.
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Midlands Eagle 14 Jun 21 2.42pm | |
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Originally posted by lefty27
Not so. There are many billionaires that would love to buy Palace but the sticking point is that Parish wants to continue running the club with a minority share interest too and most billionaires want full control Edited by Midlands Eagle (14 Jun 2021 2.43pm)
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lefty27 ipswich 14 Jun 21 3.02pm | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Not so. There are many billionaires that would love to buy Palace but the sticking point is that Parish wants to continue running the club with a minority share interest too and most billionaires want full control Edited by Midlands Eagle (14 Jun 2021 2.43pm) Really? Like who? We already have 2 billionaire owners and a mutual millionaire. What makes you think things would be better under new ownership.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 14 Jun 21 3.44pm | |
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Originally posted by lefty27
Really? Like who? We already have 2 billionaire owners and a mutual millionaire. What makes you think things would be better under new ownership. Leicester, Villa, Wolves
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rollercoaster Cornwall 14 Jun 21 4.07pm | |
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It's hard to know how much the Americans interfere with the decision making. It does appear that Palace are very poor at making quick decisions. Is it all down to Parish as the op suggests? I think not, but totally agree that Parish has to take his share of the criticism. The club need to do a huge amount better from here on or our run in the top league will end next year
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mrfantasy maidstone 14 Jun 21 4.55pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
The never blame Parish disease has been in existence for many years now on the various Palace sites. It is fair to say that his record speaks for itself in terms of promotion and keeping us up, but one cannot help but feel that his over careful attitude and occasional naivety has also held us back at times. If he sorts out the contract issues and signs some quality players this Summer, which keeps us up once again, then he will get my vote going forward. Naivety? Can you quantify this comment? Give us some examples please.
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