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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 05 Jul 21 12.43am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

I can't believe anyone is introducing race and identity politics into a thread about the new manager.

Irrelevant in my view.

 


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View Mojo87's Profile Mojo87 Flag 05 Jul 21 2.14am Send a Private Message to Mojo87 Add Mojo87 as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

If we finish 17th or better under PV, bearing in mind all the issues around squad rebuild, I will consider the season to have been a great success.

At this juncture I'd absolutely take 17th spot now given the palavra towards succession planning post Hodgson.

If he gets the financial backing this summer (and potentially Jan 2022), then my expectations could improve... But either way, looking forward to the new season and hopefully positive direction the club will go under a natural born winner in Patrick Vieira!!!

COYP

 

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View Vaibow's Profile Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 05 Jul 21 2.22am Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

I can't believe anyone is introducing race and identity politics into a thread about the new manager.

Irrelevant in my view.

You don't think it's a positive that there is a BAME manager in the prem, particularly for a club that comes from a culturally diverse community and itself a strong advocate for BAME players?

 


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View Vaibow's Profile Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 05 Jul 21 2.26am Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

Originally posted by Mojo87

At this juncture I'd absolutely take 17th spot now given the palavra towards succession planning post Hodgson.

If he gets the financial backing this summer (and potentially Jan 2022), then my expectations could improve... But either way, looking forward to the new season and hopefully positive direction the club will go under a natural born winner in Patrick Vieira!!!

COYP

I would take 17th, however my expectation for this year is between 13th/16th.

We should be investing wisely this summer and also keeping hold of talent from those that have reached the end of their contract.
3 new signings will be enough from the players we had last season, I don't want to move too soon this summer.

 


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View thai-eagle's Profile thai-eagle Flag chiang mai 05 Jul 21 4.53am Send a Private Message to thai-eagle Add thai-eagle as a friend

Welcome, PV - we will back you 100%, but at this time I would have welcomed the tea lady to lead us...
Exciting times ahead for sure!!

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 05 Jul 21 5.36am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Vaibow

You don't think it's a positive that there is a BAME manager in the prem, particularly for a club that comes from a culturally diverse community and itself a strong advocate for BAME players?

I don't think he's been employed because he's black though! He's been employed because of his skillset.
If it was a white manager would it be a negative?

 

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View Vaibow's Profile Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 05 Jul 21 5.49am Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

I don't think he's been employed because he's black though! He's been employed because of his skillset.
If it was a white manager would it be a negative?

you're dumb If you think he's been employed based on his skin colour.
you're dumb if that's what you took from my comment.

don't need to say anymore.

 


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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag London 05 Jul 21 6.21am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

PV has got a big challenge ahead. Plus side is he will be able to help choose incoming players. Downside is the turbulence of the current out of contract position. Big season ahead. Here’s hoping it goes well and PV leads us to glory.

 

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View Slimey Toad's Profile Slimey Toad Flag Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 05 Jul 21 6.59am Send a Private Message to Slimey Toad Add Slimey Toad as a friend

Originally posted by PortugueseEagle

Vierra, Veria, Viera, Verruca...

The man had the name on his shirt for so many years... Guys, just call him Patrick, if it's really that hard to spell VIEIRA.

Edited by PortugueseEagle (04 Jul 2021 11.03pm)

OK Mr Pedant, but three consecutive vowels?? What do you expect from us, the great unwashed?

 

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View Slimey Toad's Profile Slimey Toad Flag Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 05 Jul 21 7.04am Send a Private Message to Slimey Toad Add Slimey Toad as a friend

Originally posted by Vaibow

You don't think it's a positive that there is a BAME manager in the prem, particularly for a club that comes from a culturally diverse community and itself a strong advocate for BAME players?

The more people bang on about the importance of having black managers, to the point of it being a serious issue that has to be dealt with, then the more aggro is caused when black players don't apply to be one or fail and are sacked.

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 05 Jul 21 7.31am Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

Ed Aarons in the Guardian is reporting today that discussions were held about the job with Vieira back in April.
I’m curious about if he wasn’t seen as the right man for the job back then, why is he now?
I’m afraid the move smacks of desperation as we did not want to go into a new season without a manager and Vieira appears to be the only one to have bitten.
It may turn out to be an inspired choice, and I hope that to be the case, but the recruitment process seems to have been haphazard and tardy.

 

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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 05 Jul 21 7.58am Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

Ed Aarons in the Guardian is reporting today that discussions were held about the job with Vieira back in April.
I’m curious about if he wasn’t seen as the right man for the job back then, why is he now?
I’m afraid the move smacks of desperation as we did not want to go into a new season without a manager and Vieira appears to be the only one to have bitten.
It may turn out to be an inspired choice, and I hope that to be the case, but the recruitment process seems to have been haphazard and tardy.

Or maybe it was the other way round, and PV saw how Palace were under RH and felt that there could be a better opportunity for him later than taking this challenge.

 


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