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Tom-the-eagle  Croydon 06 Jul 21 6.10pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
This isn't a game of football. No-one "won or lost" as individuals. Our country's future direction has been changed and the break-up of the Union made more likely. Maybe you don't think that's important, and showing the finger to our neighbours and allies is. I disagree.
Accept it and move on with your life. You will be far happier if you do.
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 cryrst  The garden of England 06 Jul 21 7.23pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The EU will reform. It's not a question of if, but of how and when. Outside, we will have no say in that reformation and will have very little leverage. If the union has disintegrated by then the whole episode will be seen as the historical disaster I believe it to be. Just pride overcoming common sense. If you don't think things are too bad, then you haven't noticed the rising prices and shortages. The pandemic has confused everything, but as we get back on our feet, the impact will become clearer. As interest rates rise we face some seriously difficult times. Interest rates rise and fall. Nothing to do with brexit. Clutching at straws now methinks
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 Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 06 Jul 21 11.01pm |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
Accept it and move on with your life. You will be far happier if you do. That's simply bs. Seeing it in such simple terms is one of the major reasons such important decisions should never be subject to determination in a referendum, and only ever decided by those we choose to represent us. Who have the time, knowledge and experience to make intelligent judgements. We should only ever vote in a GE. After that never. And I have moved on. No point in fighting a lost battle, when the war is there to be won.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 06 Jul 21 11.04pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Interest rates rise and fall. Nothing to do with brexit. Clutching at straws now methinks When did I suggest that Brexit will cause interest rate rises? I only said they will cause difficulties which will expose us to some harsh realities. Some of which are there because of Brexit.
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Teddy Eagle  06 Jul 21 11.10pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That's simply bs. Seeing it in such simple terms is one of the major reasons such important decisions should never be subject to determination in a referendum, and only ever decided by those we choose to represent us. Who have the time, knowledge and experience to make intelligent judgements. We should only ever vote in a GE. After that never. And I have moved on. No point in fighting a lost battle, when the war is there to be won. So is the war now restructuring the EU?
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| Tom-the-eagle Croydon 06 Jul 21 11.26pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That's simply bs. Seeing it in such simple terms is one of the major reasons such important decisions should never be subject to determination in a referendum, and only ever decided by those we choose to represent us. Who have the time, knowledge and experience to make intelligent judgements. We should only ever vote in a GE. After that never. And I have moved on. No point in fighting a lost battle, when the war is there to be won.
You just come out with utter waffle. You lost. We have left. Be a man, except it and stop whining. For your own health and sanity, you really need to let this go.
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 06 Jul 21 11.51pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That's simply bs. Seeing it in such simple terms is one of the major reasons such important decisions should never be subject to determination in a referendum, and only ever decided by those we choose to represent us. Who have the time, knowledge and experience to make intelligent judgements. We should only ever vote in a GE. After that never. And I have moved on. No point in fighting a lost battle, when the war is there to be won. They seem to do ok in Switzerland Re-Referendums
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HKOwen  Hong Kong 07 Jul 21 1.01am |
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The irony in you using the phrase " in such simple terms " is hilarious. Why are most remainers blessed with the ability to see into the future. You can't let go of the " thick Brexit voters " mantra. What war is there to be won? Just asking Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That's simply bs. Seeing it in such simple terms is one of the major reasons such important decisions should never be subject to determination in a referendum, and only ever decided by those we choose to represent us. Who have the time, knowledge and experience to make intelligent judgements. We should only ever vote in a GE. After that never. And I have moved on. No point in fighting a lost battle, when the war is there to be won.
Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance. |
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Jul 21 10.40am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
So is the war now restructuring the EU? No. When we gave up our place at the table, we abandoned the opportunity to shape that. This war has many fronts. The ultimate prize is a secure, happy and successful nation. The most urgent task is to overcome the pandemic and get the economy as functional as possible. That involves finding ways to mitigate the worst aspects of an unneeded and self-destructive Brexit. Then we must try to hold the Union together long enough for the prospect of us rejoining a reformed EU to defeat any future independence referendums. Doing that whilst fighting the effects of climate change, social deprivation and a divided nation will keep minds occupied long after my lifetime.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Jul 21 10.51am |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
The irony in you using the phrase " in such simple terms " is hilarious. Why are most remainers blessed with the ability to see into the future. You can't let go of the " thick Brexit voters " mantra. What war is there to be won? Just asking If you don't think regarding the consequences of the 2016 referendum result as either a "win" or "lose" is simple, then you deserve to be called a "thick Brexit voter"! For it's very far from that. It's a hugely complicated issue. It has nothing at all to do with any kind of clairvoyance. It's looking at the realities and assessing them. Which is difficult for most of us to do, so much better to trust those we choose to represent us
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| Eaglecoops CR3 07 Jul 21 10.51am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No. When we gave up our place at the table, we abandoned the opportunity to shape that. This war has many fronts. The ultimate prize is a secure, happy and successful nation. The most urgent task is to overcome the pandemic and get the economy as functional as possible. That involves finding ways to mitigate the worst aspects of an unneeded and self-destructive Brexit. Then we must try to hold the Union together long enough for the prospect of us rejoining a reformed EU to defeat any future independence referendums. Doing that whilst fighting the effects of climate change, social deprivation and a divided nation will keep minds occupied long after my lifetime. It looks like we have a head start on other euro nations in doing this. I wonder why that is?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Jul 21 10.58am |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
You just come out with utter waffle. You lost. We have left. Be a man, except it and stop whining. For your own health and sanity, you really need to let this go. I am not whining! You are. You are whining because I disagree with your attitude, which I find simplistic. Brexit is done. I let it go a long time ago. Now we are dealing with the consequences, which show extremely clearly that no-one "won" anything. We are all losing. Now some, maybe you, think those losses are worth bearing. I don't, but they are there and must now be mitigated.
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