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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 15 Jul 21 10.09am
Originally posted by taylors lovechild It may be a big shout given he hasn't made his debut, but I actually think Hannam might oust Mitchell. The lad exudes confidence, is aggressive in the tackle and gets forward with pace. I hope we get to see the two of them fighting for the shirt next season. Personally I'd say if our budget is limited then there are more important areas of the pitch to focus on than the full-back positions. I feel the same about Hannam, and presumably so did Hodgson by promoting him to the 1st team bench when Mitchell was injured towards the end of last season. Although, it wasn't a top tier game. Hannam also starred in that U23 play-off final before the biggest crowd he will have played in front of. If we choose not to buy a replacement for PvA then I reckon Hannam may well become 1st choice LB before this coming season is out.
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Too far from Selhurst Park 15 Jul 21 10.09am

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

It may be a big shout given he hasn't made his debut, but I actually think Hannam might oust Mitchell. The lad exudes confidence, is aggressive in the tackle and gets forward with pace. I hope we get to see the two of them fighting for the shirt next season. Personally I'd say if our budget is limited then there are more important areas of the pitch to focus on than the full-back positions.

I feel the same about Hannam, and presumably so did Hodgson by promoting him to the 1st team bench when Mitchell was injured towards the end of last season. Although, it wasn't a top tier game. Hannam also starred in that U23 play-off final before the biggest crowd he will have played in front of. If we choose not to buy a replacement for PvA then I reckon Hannam may well become 1st choice LB before this coming season is out.

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sprites Auckland 15 Jul 21 10.13am
Originally posted by Hudsoneagle His ability on the ball is below the standards in the championship. He had one decent game vs Arsenal but has managed to lose us games single handedly. Perhaps one of the only players that makes me cringe when he’s selected. Ask yourself this…why does he not get a game? Why have we seen unfit players selected ahead of him? Why did a midfielder start ahead of him? He’s never been fancied by the management. He’s not even close to being good enough at this level especially with all the high press tactics around today. Have never seen these games you speak of, where he’s lost us games single handedly. I’m not sure they exist. But I don’t think you get an England cap/play for liverpool by being below championship standard. I can’t remember a time he’s ever let us down. Happy to agree to disagree though.
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Auckland 15 Jul 21 10.13am

Originally posted by Hudsoneagle

His ability on the ball is below the standards in the championship. He had one decent game vs Arsenal but has managed to lose us games single handedly. Perhaps one of the only players that makes me cringe when he’s selected.

Ask yourself this…why does he not get a game? Why have we seen unfit players selected ahead of him? Why did a midfielder start ahead of him? He’s never been fancied by the management. He’s not even close to being good enough at this level especially with all the high press tactics around today.

Have never seen these games you speak of, where he’s lost us games single handedly. I’m not sure they exist. But I don’t think you get an England cap/play for liverpool by being below championship standard. I can’t remember a time he’s ever let us down. Happy to agree to disagree though.

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 15 Jul 21 10.16am
Originally posted by Hudsoneagle His ability on the ball is below the standards in the championship. He had one decent game vs Arsenal but has managed to lose us games single handedly. Perhaps one of the only players that makes me cringe when he’s selected. Ask yourself this…why does he not get a game? Why have we seen unfit players selected ahead of him? Why did a midfielder start ahead of him? He’s never been fancied by the management. He’s not even close to being good enough at this level especially with all the high press tactics around today. You're not wrong IMO. I've said it before but he was underwhelming in an U23 game where even Dann outshone him easily last season. I can also remember him coming on in a 1st team game and going missing at the first corner he faced leading up to a goal. I can also remember the many groans from fans around me when he came on in a game a couple of years ago, so we're not alone in our opinion of Kelly, an opinion clearly shared by Hodgson and the rest of the coaching team.
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Too far from Selhurst Park 15 Jul 21 10.16am

Originally posted by Hudsoneagle

You're not wrong IMO. I've said it before but he was underwhelming in an U23 game where even Dann outshone him easily last season. I can also remember him coming on in a 1st team game and going missing at the first corner he faced leading up to a goal.

I can also remember the many groans from fans around me when he came on in a game a couple of years ago, so we're not alone in our opinion of Kelly, an opinion clearly shared by Hodgson and the rest of the coaching team.

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 17 Jul 21 8.44pm
All quiet on this Danish lad. Has it fallen through or is it a question of him having to quarantine?
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Too far from Selhurst Park 17 Jul 21 8.44pm

All quiet on this Danish lad. Has it fallen through or is it a question of him having to quarantine?

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TheBigToePunt 17 Jul 21 9.19pm
Would we really sign both Nelsson and Guehi? I suppose it would be useful, especially if Cahill's not renewing, but that's a fair old chunk of money spent on the same area of the pitch.
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17 Jul 21 9.19pm

Would we really sign both Nelsson and Guehi? I suppose it would be useful, especially if Cahill's not renewing, but that's a fair old chunk of money spent on the same area of the pitch.

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beak croydon 17 Jul 21 9.33pm
Originally posted by TheBigToePunt Would we really sign both Nelsson and Guehi? I suppose it would be useful, especially if Cahill's not renewing, but that's a fair old chunk of money spent on the same area of the pitch. Centre Backs are a very important area,they tend to get Injuries and cards more than other areas.
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croydon 17 Jul 21 9.33pm

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

Would we really sign both Nelsson and Guehi? I suppose it would be useful, especially if Cahill's not renewing, but that's a fair old chunk of money spent on the same area of the pitch.

Centre Backs are a very important area,they tend to get Injuries and cards more than other areas.

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Omph Liverpool 17 Jul 21 9.34pm
Think we might - am I right in thinking that Nelsson also has history as CDM? That would add to his appeal perhaps. He'd presumably be a CB stand in but there are openings for a CDM with the emphasis on D! An inverse Kouyate in a way. It might come down to what is planned as the inevitable loan move. If Gallagher is out of reach this time as a purchase then that might free up cash for defensive transfers. Looked at in the short medium term (as opposed to the now) we are going to be very short at CB given Tomkins. Originally posted by TheBigToePunt Would we really sign both Nelsson and Guehi? I suppose it would be useful, especially if Cahill's not renewing, but that's a fair old chunk of money spent on the same area of the pitch.
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Liverpool 17 Jul 21 9.34pm

Think we might - am I right in thinking that Nelsson also has history as CDM? That would add to his appeal perhaps.

He'd presumably be a CB stand in but there are openings for a CDM with the emphasis on D! An inverse Kouyate in a way.

It might come down to what is planned as the inevitable loan move. If Gallagher is out of reach this time as a purchase then that might free up cash for defensive transfers. Looked at in the short medium term (as opposed to the now) we are going to be very short at CB given Tomkins.

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

Would we really sign both Nelsson and Guehi? I suppose it would be useful, especially if Cahill's not renewing, but that's a fair old chunk of money spent on the same area of the pitch.

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 17 Jul 21 10.06pm
Originally posted by TheBigToePunt Would we really sign both Nelsson and Guehi? I suppose it would be useful, especially if Cahill's not renewing, but that's a fair old chunk of money spent on the same area of the pitch. I think Vieira likes to build his possession game from a strong defensive base and also wants flexibility with regard to formation options. If he wants a back 3 option he'll need more 1st team CBs than we currently have. However, it may depend on when we became interested in Guehi as to whether Nelsson is still on our list.
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Too far from Selhurst Park 17 Jul 21 10.06pm

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

Would we really sign both Nelsson and Guehi? I suppose it would be useful, especially if Cahill's not renewing, but that's a fair old chunk of money spent on the same area of the pitch.

I think Vieira likes to build his possession game from a strong defensive base and also wants flexibility with regard to formation options. If he wants a back 3 option he'll need more 1st team CBs than we currently have. However, it may depend on when we became interested in Guehi as to whether Nelsson is still on our list.

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Omph Liverpool 17 Jul 21 10.51pm
My guess is Guehi is going to be another Olise - a Dougie signing who has been tracked and scouted endlessly in the Champo - and that is why we have got it done quickly. Agree on flexibility point. Would simply add that our effective number of CBs falls if we add comfort on the ball as a requirement. Just checked re my earlier comment and Nelsson has no real chops as a CDM having only appeared there a very few times early on but so far as I can see he is relatively strong with the ball at this feet. Originally posted by doombear I think Vieira likes to build his possession game from a strong defensive base and also wants flexibility with regard to formation options. If he wants a back 3 option he'll need more 1st team CBs than we currently have. However, it may depend on when we became interested in Guehi as to whether Nelsson is still on our list.
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Liverpool 17 Jul 21 10.51pm

My guess is Guehi is going to be another Olise - a Dougie signing who has been tracked and scouted endlessly in the Champo - and that is why we have got it done quickly.

Agree on flexibility point. Would simply add that our effective number of CBs falls if we add comfort on the ball as a requirement.

Just checked re my earlier comment and Nelsson has no real chops as a CDM having only appeared there a very few times early on but so far as I can see he is relatively strong with the ball at this feet.

Originally posted by doombear

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glazedallover Allier 17 Jul 21 11.48pm
Originally posted by Omph My guess is Guehi is going to be another Olise - a Dougie signing who has been tracked and scouted endlessly in the Champo - and that is why we have got it done quickly. Agree on flexibility point. Would simply add that our effective number of CBs falls if we add comfort on the ball as a requirement. Just checked re my earlier comment and Nelsson has no real chops as a CDM having only appeared there a very few times early on but so far as I can see he is relatively strong with the ball at this feet. What we buy him with an injury keeping him out for several weeks ?
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Allier 17 Jul 21 11.48pm

Originally posted by Omph

My guess is Guehi is going to be another Olise - a Dougie signing who has been tracked and scouted endlessly in the Champo - and that is why we have got it done quickly.

Agree on flexibility point. Would simply add that our effective number of CBs falls if we add comfort on the ball as a requirement.

What we buy him with an injury keeping him out for several weeks ?

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Midlands Eagle 18 Jul 21 7.18am
Originally posted by beak Centre Backs are a very important area,they tend to get Injuries and cards more than other areas. Ours do as we start the season with loads of centre backs and one by one they seem to fall by the wayside leaving us having to try and fit square pegs into round holes. last season wasn't the first time that it has happened although Kouyate made a good fist of his move from midfield to defence
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18 Jul 21 7.18am

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Originally posted by beak

Centre Backs are a very important area,they tend to get Injuries and cards more than other areas.

Ours do as we start the season with loads of centre backs and one by one they seem to fall by the wayside leaving us having to try and fit square pegs into round holes.

last season wasn't the first time that it has happened although Kouyate made a good fist of his move from midfield to defence

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YT Oxford 18 Jul 21 7.30am
With Nelsson on board, Victory will be ours! Poke my eye out and cut off my arm if I'm wrong. Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 18 Jul 21 7.30am

With Nelsson on board, Victory will be ours!

Poke my eye out and cut off my arm if I'm wrong.

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

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