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Hrolf The Ganger 19 Jul 21 11.54am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Hitler may well have said it, but in an entirely different context. It's our successors who are primarily affected by evolutionary change, and whilst things will get discarded on the way, the general direction of travel is always towards success. The general direction of travel in this context being towards greater co-operation between like-minded nations. Not isolationism. It is more efficient to co-operate with your near neighbours than with those half a world away. Centralised power is the only likely outcome of the EU. That means less people making decisions for more people and from a foreign country. You might see that as some sort of Star Trek utopia but not everyone shares that dream. It will be more easily corruptable, less answerable and more remote from the people it governs. We joined the Common Market for trade and it eneded up with the French and Germans dictating policy. What a surprise. Move on. We are out and staying out. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (19 Jul 2021 11.54am)
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Hitler may well have said it, but in an entirely different context. It's our successors who are primarily affected by evolutionary change, and whilst things will get discarded on the way, the general direction of travel is always towards success.

The general direction of travel in this context being towards greater co-operation between like-minded nations. Not isolationism. It is more efficient to co-operate with your near neighbours than with those half a world away.

Centralised power is the only likely outcome of the EU. That means less people making decisions for more people and from a foreign country. You might see that as some sort of Star Trek utopia but not everyone shares that dream.

It will be more easily corruptable, less answerable and more remote from the people it governs.
We joined the Common Market for trade and it eneded up with the French and Germans dictating policy. What a surprise.
Move on. We are out and staying out.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 19 Jul 21 12.05pm
I guess if remain had won, this thread wouldn't exist. We'd have a 50ft Mammy Merkel on the fourth plinth. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 19 Jul 21 12.05pm

I guess if remain had won, this thread wouldn't exist. We'd have a 50ft Mammy Merkel on the fourth plinth.

Red and Blue Army!

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Jul 21 1.42pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Centralised power is the only likely outcome of the EU. That means less people making decisions for more people and from a foreign country. You might see that as some sort of Star Trek utopia but not everyone shares that dream. It will be more easily corruptable, less answerable and more remote from the people it governs. We joined the Common Market for trade and it eneded up with the French and Germans dictating policy. What a surprise. Move on. We are out and staying out. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (19 Jul 2021 11.54am) Subsidiarity is not a word you hear a lot these days, but the principal ought to be at the heart of the way everything is organised. Some things are better when organised centrally. Others not. The challenge is knowing which is which. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 19 Jul 21 1.42pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (19 Jul 2021 11.54am)

Subsidiarity is not a word you hear a lot these days, but the principal ought to be at the heart of the way everything is organised. Some things are better when organised centrally. Others not. The challenge is knowing which is which.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Jul 21 1.44pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC I guess if remain had won, this thread wouldn't exist. We'd have a 50ft Mammy Merkel on the fourth plinth. Don't think that's the point of the plinth, although it would certainly attract some lively debate. And a few eggs no doubt. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 19 Jul 21 1.44pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I guess if remain had won, this thread wouldn't exist. We'd have a 50ft Mammy Merkel on the fourth plinth.

Don't think that's the point of the plinth, although it would certainly attract some lively debate. And a few eggs no doubt.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 19 Jul 21 2.35pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Don't think that's the point of the plinth, although it would certainly attract some lively debate. And a few eggs no doubt. My final idea is rent it out to Costa, Starbucks, Greggs or Subway. They get bloody everywhere anyway. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 19 Jul 21 2.35pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Don't think that's the point of the plinth, although it would certainly attract some lively debate. And a few eggs no doubt.

My final idea is rent it out to Costa, Starbucks, Greggs or Subway. They get bloody everywhere anyway.

Red and Blue Army!

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Teddy Eagle 19 Jul 21 3.51pm
My suggestion is to leave it empty as a symbol of the absence of compassion in the world, a comment on the void whichever celebrity has died recently has created and an indictment of the howling vapidity of the art world in general. I shall accept the prize money in bundles of crisp new �50 notes delivered to me in a pub by Susan George.
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19 Jul 21 3.51pm

My suggestion is to leave it empty as a symbol of the absence of compassion in the world, a comment on the void whichever celebrity has died recently has created and an indictment of the howling vapidity of the art world in general.
I shall accept the prize money in bundles of crisp new �50 notes delivered to me in a pub by Susan George.

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Hrolf The Ganger 19 Jul 21 4.00pm
I'd suggest a statue of a generic Northern European. Children will be fascinated to know what one looked like in the future when all the photos, film and books have been destroyed in order to rewrite history.
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Hrolf The Ganger

19 Jul 21 4.00pm

I'd suggest a statue of a generic Northern European.

Children will be fascinated to know what one looked like in the future when all the photos, film and books have been destroyed in order to rewrite history.

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georgenorman 19 Jul 21 5.51pm
Alice in Wonderland would be apropriate.
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19 Jul 21 5.51pm

Alice in Wonderland would be apropriate.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Jul 21 6.40pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle My suggestion is to leave it empty as a symbol of the absence of compassion in the world, a comment on the void whichever celebrity has died recently has created and an indictment of the howling vapidity of the art world in general. I shall accept the prize money in bundles of crisp new �50 notes delivered to me in a pub by Susan George. If unmade beds can be art, and a canvas just painted blue can fetch millions, why not? It's every bit as valid. Go claim your prize. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 19 Jul 21 6.40pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

If unmade beds can be art, and a canvas just painted blue can fetch millions, why not? It's every bit as valid. Go claim your prize.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Jul 21 6.45pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger I'd suggest a statue of a generic Northern European. Children will be fascinated to know what one looked like in the future when all the photos, film and books have been destroyed in order to rewrite history. Your disproportionate cynicism knows no bounds, does it? How long do the pieces stay on the plinth? Only a few months, I think. I think you can be reasonably confident that a few "generic Northern Europeans" will still be around when it's replaced. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 19 Jul 21 6.45pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I'd suggest a statue of a generic Northern European.

Children will be fascinated to know what one looked like in the future when all the photos, film and books have been destroyed in order to rewrite history.

Your disproportionate cynicism knows no bounds, does it?

How long do the pieces stay on the plinth? Only a few months, I think. I think you can be reasonably confident that a few "generic Northern Europeans" will still be around when it's replaced.

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Spiderman Horsham 19 Jul 21 6.46pm
Or we could commemorate the 500, yes 500 migrants ( mostly young men) who arrived by dinghy today
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Horsham 19 Jul 21 6.46pm

Or we could commemorate the 500, yes 500 migrants ( mostly young men) who arrived by dinghy today

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cryrst The garden of England 19 Jul 21 9.19pm
Originally posted by The Dolphin I don't agree with much that Wisbech says but i do agree on this occasion. We have to be open to change and try things. The original Common Market or was it the EEC (maybe that was afterwards) seemed to be a good idea with neighbouring Countries trading with ease with each other. The problem was that Germany - and then France - wanted it to be made all about them - they wanted the power. Had it stayed as the original idea was then maybe things would not be as they are now. We will all have different ideas but I liked it then but I wanted us to leave in the because of the ridiculous EU machine. We always have to try things though I don't recall and I repeat yet again any brexiteer dismissing rejoining. The caveat is a set of terms that suit the UK. Not generic rules. That's what Cameron wanted and got laughed out. Had the EU bent to us we would still be in.
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The garden of England 19 Jul 21 9.19pm

Originally posted by The Dolphin

I don't agree with much that Wisbech says but i do agree on this occasion.
We have to be open to change and try things.
The original Common Market or was it the EEC (maybe that was afterwards) seemed to be a good idea with neighbouring Countries trading with ease with each other.
The problem was that Germany - and then France - wanted it to be made all about them - they wanted the power.
Had it stayed as the original idea was then maybe things would not be as they are now.
We will all have different ideas but I liked it then but I wanted us to leave in the because of the ridiculous EU machine.
We always have to try things though

I don't recall and I repeat yet again any brexiteer dismissing rejoining. The caveat is a set of terms that suit the UK. Not generic rules. That's what Cameron wanted and got laughed out. Had the EU bent to us we would still be in.

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