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 madcap_v2  SE25 / Ibiza 20 Jul 21 12.32am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
When I was a teenager living in Stockwell I was attacked by a black gang called an 'posse', between ten and twenty of them, one of them using the handle of a axe to break bones and put me in hospital....the rest of them kicking the s***e out of me. I don't remember racial words being said but I'd done nothing to these people other than not back down to one of them. If they hadn't have been disturbed by someone walking along I might not even be here. I have those injuries to this day as scars and one bone that will never properly straighten. I can assure you I'd have much more preferred some racial insult. It was the final straw before our family spent everything getting out of there. Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Jul 2021 11.40pm) Sorry to hear that happened to you. But what has this got to do with me?
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| madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 20 Jul 21 12.34am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Is that really racism or just personal abuse? I reserve the term racism for, well, actual racism. Insults are designed to antagonize the victim. It's not about racism, it's about insulting successfully. Come on man, don't be so obtuse. What's actual racism? Reading your other posts would have you believe it doesn't exist. So which is it? What is it?
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Teddy Eagle  20 Jul 21 12.42am |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
Why have you directed this at me? Just to point out that the abuse you suffered is hurtful but it isn’t unique.
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| Stirlingsays 20 Jul 21 7.32am |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
Sorry to hear that happened to you. But what has this got to do with me?
If that had relevance to Hrolf then this event has relevance to you.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 20 Jul 21 9.27am |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
Come on man, don't be so obtuse. What's actual racism? Reading your other posts would have you believe it doesn't exist. So which is it? What is it? Racism is not using insulting remarks. You could just add 'ism' to any characteristic that is the object of insult. Racism is the systematic oppression of one group purely because of their race. Some like to expand that to religion. The casual use of race related insults and resentments prevail among everyone. The idea that Black people are somehow the only victims is laughable. You need to get some perspective.
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| madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 20 Jul 21 10.43am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Racism is not using insulting remarks. You could just add 'ism' to any characteristic that is the object of insult. Racism is the systematic oppression of one group purely because of their race. Some like to expand that to religion. The casual use of race related insults and resentments prevail among everyone. The idea that Black people are somehow the only victims is laughable. You need to get some perspective. I haven't said black people are the only victims of racism or racial prejudice. Please point to me where I have said this, otherwise you're just making up scenarios and arguments in your head.
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| madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 20 Jul 21 10.50am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
If that had relevance to Hrolf then this event has relevance to you. If you're going to follow eachother around on here at least make your points make sense. He said racism isn't a problem and bizarrely made a link to application in education and racism. My reply was in response to that, looks like you felt left out and wanted attention, because you've had a awful experience as a child. The difference is, my example is very recent.
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| madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 20 Jul 21 10.52am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Just to point out that the abuse you suffered is hurtful but it isn’t unique. I didn't make the claim that racism isn't a problem, nor did I make the link between education and receiving racism.
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| Teddy Eagle 20 Jul 21 12.16pm |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
I didn't make the claim that racism isn't a problem, nor did I make the link between education and receiving racism. OK. I must have misunderstood when you said about the incident being possibly deterred if you’d had your degree tattooed on your forehead.
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| Stirlingsays 20 Jul 21 12.26pm |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
If you're going to follow eachother around on here at least make your points make sense. He said racism isn't a problem and bizarrely made a link to application in education and racism. My reply was in response to that, looks like you felt left out and wanted attention, because you've had a awful experience as a child. The difference is, my example is very recent. ? You asked for the reason, I tell you the reason and you type a justification that amounts to a distinction without a difference. You obviously didn't like it, but like you said to me....not my problem.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 20 Jul 21 12.34pm |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
I haven't said black people are the only victims of racism or racial prejudice. Please point to me where I have said this, otherwise you're just making up scenarios and arguments in your head. Let me be clearer for you. I think you should stop whining about name calling and worry about more serious matters. You are a massive hypocrite with no self awareness at all.
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| madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 20 Jul 21 11.50pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Let me be clearer for you. I think you should stop whining about name calling and worry about more serious matters. You are a massive hypocrite with no self awareness at all. Racism goes deeper than name-calling, you can't be that obtuse, surely? Likewise, you spend a lot of time and energy talking about something you don't believe is a problem or exists, very weird behaviour. There is more to life than internet forums. Far from a hypocrite, I just prefer honesty. Plus, someone needs to call out some of the pretty awful opinions on racism here, it might make the HOL a more welcoming place.
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