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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 15 Aug 21 7.04pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

the Hungerford massacre was something similar. Another Incel, long before the moniker even existed.

You could argue that very many of the muslim terror atrocities on our streets ? all just Incels in another packaging.

 


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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 15 Aug 21 7.39pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

the Hungerford massacre was something similar. Another Incel, long before the moniker even existed.

You could argue that very many of the muslim terror atrocities on our streets ? all just Incels in another packaging.

I think you certainly can. So much of it is angry, disaffected and lost men (always men) kicking out at the world and looking for a cause to channel their anger and aggression into.

Edited by DanH (15 Aug 2021 7.39pm)

 

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 15 Aug 21 7.42pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

There have always been 'incels', there just wasn't a name for it before the digital age.

Due to the nature of male/female interaction. It's in the interests of women to find the highest status mate and so that creates a mating issue between average and below average males. The top twenty percent of dating males get to cherry pick women where roughly eighty percent don't entertain dating outside of the top males.....until their own self value estimation lowers.

It's an unspoken reality that has always existed....it's natural and in a normal environment women don't get the same level of access to the top males and so the pool for average women/males to settle is larger.....even for the higher females the average males catch them on their way down.

However, the rise of feminism and the alphabet ideologies allied to the digital age has worsened this natural dynamic and it partly explains why progressives hate 'incels' so much.....because they realise that it's their hatred of masculinity that has helped increase the numbers of these socially unsuccessful men considerably. This is the resultant underbelly of their social and political change.....but instead of taking responsibility and trying to help they prefer to block off any self reflective thought and demonise these people instead.

All the progressive media outlets use this disparate collection of men as a 'hate' group.....painting them as women haters and as extreme this and extreme that when the reality is that the only thing that connects them all together is that they can't get laid.

I've seen a video this guy put out about his life. He seems to be a product of today's nihilistic society who was using 'incel' stuff as an excuse for his own social disaffection...This guy wasn't physically repulsive....What he needed was good people around him, but today's society is so fragmented that the number of people without good social connections is significantly higher.

This awful event is reflective of a deeper dysfunction going on within society.....dysfunctions resultant from dysfunctions.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Aug 2021 5.33pm)

This is a monumental, and pretty repulsive leap, to blame men wanting to kill innocent people on the rise of feminism and progressive culture.

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 15 Aug 21 7.48pm

Originally posted by kingdowieonthewall

I worked on several barn conversions, on the same plot of land.
Besides the 3 conversions the builder kept the ongoing farm land / small holdings to work & as such had a rifle.
The f***er shot a dog that came onto 'his' land & bothered sheep (although his own dogs were enough to get rid of the offending trespassing dog)
Basically he'd been waiting for an excuse to kill something as soon as hed got his gun.
didnt work for him on his next project & a few other trades declined.

Good man King- I hope sincerely hope karma comes to visit him one day!

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 15 Aug 21 9.00pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

This is a monumental, and pretty repulsive leap, to blame men wanting to kill innocent people on the rise of feminism and progressive culture.

the Vikings, the Yamnaya , the conquistadors, Sir Francis Drake , Gengis Khan.

all driven by the fear of being a nobody and a need to get their rocks off.

 


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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Online Flag Hong Kong 16 Aug 21 12.33am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

An eclectic list


Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

the Vikings, the Yamnaya , the conquistadors, Sir Francis Drake , Gengis Khan.

all driven by the fear of being a nobody and a need to get their rocks off.

Edited by HKOwen (16 Aug 2021 12.35am)

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 16 Aug 21 2.14am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

This is a monumental, and pretty repulsive leap, to blame men wanting to kill innocent people on the rise of feminism and progressive culture.


The truth is the truth, how you feel about it is irrelevant.

Like I said, instead of reflective thought all you have is emotion.

Anyway, I think I was quite clear. This happened naturally before these progressive beliefs became mainstream. However, what they are to blame for is the increase in numbers.

And I explained why.

 


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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 16 Aug 21 8.08am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


The truth is the truth, how you feel about it is irrelevant.

Like I said, instead of reflective thought all you have is emotion.

Anyway, I think I was quite clear. This happened naturally before these progressive beliefs became mainstream. However, what they are to blame for is the increase in numbers.

And I explained why.

It’s not the truth; it’s your opinion. It reads like the manifesto of a chauvinist. Violent men are the fault of only themselves. Not women. Not feminism. Not progressive society. But Violent men who can’t keep their emotions in check.

Women and society owe men nothing.

Edited by DanH (16 Aug 2021 8.12am)

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 16 Aug 21 8.19am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by gambler

R.i.p. to the victims.

Thread didnt take long to go down the usual route did it.

I think the OP started it down the usual route

 

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View Wilesy01's Profile Wilesy01 Flag Bristol 16 Aug 21 8.41am Send a Private Message to Wilesy01 Add Wilesy01 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


The truth is the truth, how you feel about it is irrelevant.

Like I said, instead of reflective thought all you have is emotion.

Anyway, I think I was quite clear. This happened naturally before these progressive beliefs became mainstream. However, what they are to blame for is the increase in numbers.

And I explained why.

I wondered how long it would be before someone on here blamed the victims.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 16 Aug 21 9.58am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

It’s not the truth; it’s your opinion. It reads like the manifesto of a chauvinist. Violent men are the fault of only themselves. Not women. Not feminism. Not progressive society. But Violent men who can’t keep their emotions in check.

Women and society owe men nothing.

Edited by DanH (16 Aug 2021 8.12am)

more feminist ramblings from your there.

Well dear, to follow your grasping logic...then men owe women nothing.

Shall we commence with dismantling the Welfare State that has created so many Incels ?.....the State replacing the man's traditional role as a provider.

Why should mr Jones, the taxpayer, pay to raise the kids of Chad & Tyrone ? Mr Jones is single & childless.

yup, no Incel epidemic in places like India, Turkey & Latin America. I wonder why that is ?

Edited by PalazioVecchio (16 Aug 2021 10.04am)

 


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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 16 Aug 21 11.03am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Personally I think this Incel stuff is BS. This bloke was a f***-up with a terribly dysfunctional relationship with his mother. A story as old as human kind. The only modern twist is that these oxygen thieves now have a way of communicating with others of their type. Perhaps this does lead to a spiral of spite but unfortunately that Genie is well and truly out of the bottle now.

The real issue is how he got those guns back after events in December. That is the politics in all of this. Everything else is just heart-breakingly tragic.

 


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