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View Daddyorc's Profile Daddyorc Flag Atlantic Highlands, NJ 15 Aug 21 9.33am Send a Private Message to Daddyorc Add Daddyorc as a friend

Gosh Painter, you really have nothing better to do than try to rile up a long term supporter?

Actually try and give your take, as opposed to just criticizing others.

Originally posted by Painter

Did you expect any different against Chelsea away?

 

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View Uphill's Profile Uphill Flag Bedford 15 Aug 21 9.33am Send a Private Message to Uphill Add Uphill as a friend

Originally posted by the silurian

why does someone always want to blame the keeper when we lose.....not every shot is saveable and even the best keepers let goals in....keeper in this case is the least of our problems, midfield is worrying with Schlupp and Ayew in it

Edited by the silurian (15 Aug 2021 7.23am)

Midfield has been our weakest point in years. When we have somebody decent they are let go - Watson, Bannan amngst others. Until we have a decent holding midfielder working in conjunction with mobile forwards we will struggle. Gallagher should help but he is not the Messiah .....
as for our keeper, like others he has his weaknesses and maybe he should alternate with Buckland ?

 

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View Fatherken's Profile Fatherken Flag 15 Aug 21 9.37am Send a Private Message to Fatherken Add Fatherken as a friend

Guaita was really poor yesterday . Stood like a statue form the free kick , didn't even try to move . The second goal did not hold onto the ball , let it spill out of his hands , goal scored . If WH had done either of these in one match he would have been crucified by some on these ages , but somehow Guaita gets away with it . I would play Butland in the next game .

 

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View X20XEV's Profile X20XEV Flag Hampshire 15 Aug 21 9.39am Send a Private Message to X20XEV Add X20XEV as a friend

I have not noticed anyone suggesting that the John Moss was the best for Chelsea!

As the biased commentator said Rudiger is an expert at fouling and making it look fair, probably on a par with Grealish and Ward-Prowse and as usual the referees are not good enough to call it. The majority of fouls in the first half were in Chelseas favour and having seen the Mitchell 'foul' that lead to the first goal, how does contact between the outside of his foot and the outside of Mounts foot whilst both are on the ground knock the player over holding his shin! If anything Mount stood on Mitchells foot.

Comments have been made that Luka would have been stronger but I suspect that if so he would have seen Red from Mr Moss.

Premier league referees are simply not good enough and the Premier League are not strong enough to stamp out the cheating.

 

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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 15 Aug 21 9.43am Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by Daddyorc

Gosh Painter, you really have nothing better to do than try to rile up a long term supporter?

Actually try and give your take, as opposed to just criticizing others.

For whats worth, my take is no point critising Vieira until the transfer window closes and he knows what he has to work with. As a club, we are on a huge curve of change and its going to take time to settle down.
Everyone knew we needed a change of direction, but to expect it to be seamless from the first game is crazy.
Negativity seems to be most peoples default position, if things are the same by the end of September, I could understand.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Aug 21 9.45am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

Did you expect any different against Chelsea away?

I asserted before the game we basically had the same players as last season.

I was certainly not confident that we could get a result, but losing 3-0 on the back of a less than inspiring performance was disappointing as far as I am concerned.

Mr Hodgson would have come in for some criticism had he been in charge, certainly he would have been pilloried for selecting Mateta over Benteke.

 

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View Gary St.Andrews's Profile Gary St.Andrews Flag Kenley 15 Aug 21 9.53am Send a Private Message to Gary St.Andrews Add Gary St.Andrews as a friend

Given the choice PV would have put out a different team yesterday. Our midfield was not strong enough to cope with Chelsea, let’s see what we can take from the Brentford game next Saturday.

The way I see it only Man City, Liverpool and Man Utd would have fared better against Chelsea.

 

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View waterfordpal's Profile waterfordpal Flag 15 Aug 21 9.56am Send a Private Message to waterfordpal Add waterfordpal as a friend

I think VG has probably been our best keeper of recent seasons BUT who came up with this 'rule' that if you drop a keeper it 'destroys' their confidence ?
There is no point having a decent no.2 keeper if you are not prepared to give him a chance whenever the no.1 has a below par game which VG certainly had yesterday. Early on he punched a ball out for a corner when it would have been easier to just catch it. He tamely pushed it away for the 2nd goal when again any top keeper would have held it. Keepers these days seem to prefer wearing big thick gloves to 'get something on it' rather than wearing gloves that actually let you handle the ball. I'd be fair to Butland and start him v Brentford and let VG earn his spot back.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Aug 21 10.00am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

For whats worth, my take is no point critising Vieira until the transfer window closes and he knows what he has to work with. As a club, we are on a huge curve of change and its going to take time to settle down.
Everyone knew we needed a change of direction, but to expect it to be seamless from the first game is crazy.

Negativity seems to be most peoples default position, if things are the same by the end of September, I could understand.

I think there is a general acceptance that we are on a "Curve of change" and that in a period of transition there will be bumps in the road.

No supporter is expecting a "Seamless" scenario but of course there are some,like myself of course,who get disappointed after a defeat.
I was expressing these sentiments last night to my dear wife over a meal and she used words which translated as "Ferme la bouche".

Edited by Willo (15 Aug 2021 10.02am)

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Aug 21 10.07am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by waterfordpal

I think VG has probably been our best keeper of recent seasons BUT who came up with this 'rule' that if you drop a keeper it 'destroys' their confidence ?
There is no point having a decent no.2 keeper if you are not prepared to give him a chance whenever the no.1 has a below par game which VG certainly had yesterday. Early on he punched a ball out for a corner when it would have been easier to just catch it. He tamely pushed it away for the 2nd goal when again any top keeper would have held it. Keepers these days seem to prefer wearing big thick gloves to 'get something on it' rather than wearing gloves that actually let you handle the ball. I'd be fair to Butland and start him v Brentford and let VG earn his spot back.

Guaita has never been that commanding when the ball is in the air and his strengths lie in his shot-stopping ability.
I suspect he will be disappointed in his part in the second goal.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 15 Aug 21 10.13am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Guaita still gets my vote of confidence.

Many good performances in the recent past.

 


Eze Peasy at Anfield....

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 15 Aug 21 10.18am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

For whats worth, my take is no point critising Vieira until the transfer window closes and he knows what he has to work with. As a club, we are on a huge curve of change and its going to take time to settle down.
Everyone knew we needed a change of direction, but to expect it to be seamless from the first game is crazy.
Negativity seems to be most peoples default position, if things are the same by the end of September, I could understand.


Probably longer. The league tends not to settle until the clocks change and that is how long it will take (at least) for the new breed to bed in.

 

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