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View Gary St.Andrews's Profile Gary St.Andrews Flag Kenley 15 Aug 21 10.46am Send a Private Message to Gary St.Andrews Add Gary St.Andrews as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Guaita has never been that commanding when the ball is in the air and his strengths lie in his shot-stopping ability.
I suspect he will be disappointed in his part in the second goal.

Guaita is an excellent keeper, it’s up to the rest of the team to help him protect the goal. All the time he is peppered with shots sooner or later one goes in. Sure, yesterday he should have done better on the second goal, but on the third no one got close to Chalobah. We never seem to close people down quick enough.

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 15 Aug 21 11.08am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

I tipped Chelsea to win the League this season, so not surprised at their level of performance. And my expectations pre game were broadly in line with what happened on the pitch.

I thought we looked ok before Mr. Moss once again intervened on Chelsea's behalf. Mitchell should not have given him a decision to make however.

I'm sure everyone has a view re playing out from the back, from what I saw yesterday, we don't yet look comfortable enough to do it effectively.

So I came away disappointed with yet another performance against Chelsea in which we failed to impose ourselves on the game. That's largely been the case for the last couple of years against them.

As for the team selection...Sicknote Tompkins absent again, Mateta offered nothing to suggest he's up to the job and it was a tough afternoon for Mitchell. Positives - Rak-Sakyi didn't look overawed when he came on and Andersen did well during his brief appearance

 


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View palace chick's Profile palace chick Flag South Croydon 15 Aug 21 11.10am Send a Private Message to palace chick Add palace chick as a friend

Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews

Guaita is an excellent keeper, it’s up to the rest of the team to help him protect the goal. All the time he is peppered with shots sooner or later one goes in. Sure, yesterday he should have done better on the second goal, but on the third no one got close to Chalobah. We never seem to close people down quick enough.

I don’t think Roy’s team would have allowed Chalobah that room to shoot. Saying that, I would still of expected us to lose to that far superior Chelsea team yesterday. Midfield was a major problem for us yesterday, especially as Chelsea‘a dominance made us play so deep. Guaita was certainly at fault with the second goal and didn’t look throughout as assured as normal, but I wouldn’t drop him after one game. Just perhaps Buckland will fit in better with a new playing system. Time will tell?

 

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View the silurian's Profile the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 15 Aug 21 11.16am Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by Fatherken

Guaita was really poor yesterday . Stood like a statue form the free kick , didn't even try to move . The second goal did not hold onto the ball , let it spill out of his hands , goal scored . If WH had done either of these in one match he would have been crucified by some on these ages , but somehow Guaita gets away with it . I would play Butland in the next game .

Your hero Hennessey has gone, get over it!!

 

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View maddog's Profile maddog Flag Wiltshire 15 Aug 21 11.16am Send a Private Message to maddog Add maddog as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I asserted before the game we basically had the same players as last season.

I was certainly not confident that we could get a result, but losing 3-0 on the back of a less than inspiring performance was disappointing as far as I am concerned.

Mr Hodgson would have come in for some criticism had he been in charge, certainly he would have been pilloried for selecting Mateta over Benteke.

That’s just it - Roy Hodgson WAS in charge when we lost 4-0 in the same fixture last season. And Roy did repeatedly select Benteke when most of us had given up any hope of him ever scoring again. There was little criticism for the 4-0 defeat because it was Chelsea away. And he was not “pillorised” for selecting an out of form forward - who eventually came good last season.

 

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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 15 Aug 21 11.20am Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews

Guaita is an excellent keeper, it’s up to the rest of the team to help him protect the goal. All the time he is peppered with shots sooner or later one goes in. Sure, yesterday he should have done better on the second goal, but on the third no one got close to Chalobah. We never seem to close people down quick enough.

I've been a huge fan of Guaita too, but I do think it might be worth giving Butland a start against Brentford. He is a class keeper and needs to be kept involved, also the competition should keep Guaita sharp.

A lot has been said about yesterday's game and basically I think most of us anticipated a tough game and a defeat, but no real supporter wouldn't be disappointed.

There's a great deal to be positive about in what's happened during the close season and when all our players are ready to play we'll improve. PV will start to have more influence in the set up, positioning and style which will impact favourably on results.

We still need a decent striker though.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Aug 21 11.33am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by maddog

That’s just it - Roy Hodgson WAS in charge when we lost 4-0 in the same fixture last season. And Roy did repeatedly select Benteke when most of us had given up any hope of him ever scoring again. There was little criticism for the 4-0 defeat because it was Chelsea away. And he was not “pillorised” for selecting an out of form forward - who eventually came good last season.

Benteke did come good at the business end of the season, scoring 5 in his last 7 PL games and 4 in his last 4 PL games. For this reason I believe Mr Hodgson would have been pilloried if he had chosen Mateta over him yesterday.
Mateta has looked like a 'Fish out of water' in the PL.

 

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View Pierre's Profile Pierre Flag Purley 15 Aug 21 11.40am Send a Private Message to Pierre Add Pierre as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Guaita has never been that commanding when the ball is in the air and his strengths lie in his shot-stopping ability.
I suspect he will be disappointed in his part in the second goal.

It was always going to be a titanic struggle to get anything out of yesterdays game other than possibly competing with Chelsea in some part of the game. Also as it's been mentioned Moss did us no favours again either!!!
Yes, Guaita should have done better with the second goal and the wall could have possibly done more to with the first (it didn't jump at all).
I think that PV played Mateta firstly to prove to others at the club that he just isn't what is required as premiership standard in terms of a squad striker and secondly as Benteke isn't ready for a full game yet.
However we are in transition, still have some more players to come in and it was Chelsea we were playing.
Andersen looks very promising indeed & Rak-Sakyi didn't look out of place either.
I also thought it was a good move by PV bringing more of our youngsters to Stamford bridge on the bench even if it was just for the experience and atmosphere.
We move on to next week-looking forward to Gallagher filling a gaping hole in midfield, maybe an Andersen & Benteke start.
Shame we missed out on Armstrong he seems know where the bloody goal is!

 

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View kevlee's Profile kevlee Flag born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 15 Aug 21 11.40am Send a Private Message to kevlee Add kevlee as a friend

Mateta is rubbish. How many more times does he need to be played for PV to realise this?
And Ayew is another who is only in the team because there’s no one better, not because he is PL quality.
We could have been in two different leagues.

 


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View Gary St.Andrews's Profile Gary St.Andrews Flag Kenley 15 Aug 21 11.42am Send a Private Message to Gary St.Andrews Add Gary St.Andrews as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Benteke did come good at the business end of the season, scoring 5 in his last 7 PL games and 4 in his last 4 PL games. For this reason I believe Mr Hodgson would have been pilloried if he had chosen Mateta over him yesterday.
Mateta has looked like a 'Fish out of water' in the PL.

Expect Tekkers to start against Brentford. That aerial threat is something Brentford didn’t get against Arsenal and there were plenty of crosses going into the Brentford box and no one on the end of them.

 

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View Pierre's Profile Pierre Flag Purley 15 Aug 21 11.43am Send a Private Message to Pierre Add Pierre as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I asserted before the game we basically had the same players as last season.

I was certainly not confident that we could get a result, but losing 3-0 on the back of a less than inspiring performance was disappointing as far as I am concerned.

Mr Hodgson would have come in for some criticism had he been in charge, certainly he would have been pilloried for selecting Mateta over Benteke.

Oh and by the way Willo I sincerely hope that you and your good lady have taken down the large photo of the queen above the fireplace in 'Chez Willo' and replaced it with a fitting tribute to Mr Roy Hodgson!

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Aug 21 11.44am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Our full backs not good enough. See last season. Our strikers not good enough - see last season. Midfield too slow, unfit and can't pass - see last season. It was just a last season performance, hence the same squad, basically same result. We need attacking players now, no way that Eze, Olisse and Gallagher can turn this around. Wide players needed, plus Wilf just the same as last season too. Deja vu.
Must do minimum changes for next week - absolute musts - for next week: start Anderson, Start Rak-Sakyi, drop Mateta and Ayew, no option but to start Benteke (although I like Street) and Wilf, no option at full back, but drop Riedewald for Gallagher. The bare minimum required for us to make a go at it. I've been willing to cut Mateta slack, but he can go back to wherever we got him from, our youngsters are a better bet. Perhaps start Clyne if fit. Ward increasingly immobile. Some weaknesses we can do nothing about but we clearly need a proper wide player with pace, we could really do with a full back, hopefully one that can play on either side. That's even if we use Banks, Hannam and Rak-Sakyi.

 


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