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Rogers Don Horsham 24 Aug 21 10.45pm
An opportunity missed to give the youngsters experience e.g. Rak Zaki, Hannah, Boateng, Banks and Street. Looks like Viera is copying Roy. Let's keep the ball this season!
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Rogers Don

Horsham 24 Aug 21 10.45pm

An opportunity missed to give the youngsters experience e.g. Rak Zaki, Hannah, Boateng, Banks and Street. Looks like Viera is copying Roy.

Let's keep the ball this season!

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Crystal_Clear Belfast 24 Aug 21 10.48pm
Originally posted by robdave2k Got this horrible feeling that this was it for Vieria tonight. Don’t get me wrong - not calling for him to go by any means, but sometimes there is that game or that moment that defines things. That didn’t look like a side playing for him - and RH has to take a lot of the blame as he killed a lot of confidence in the side. Like Roy Keane, I don’t think he’s experienced a lot of adversity and is managing players who were beneath his level. But it all just has that feeling. It doesn’t feel quite right, no matter how much we’d like it to. I don't see us hitting the panic button, but with up and coming fixtures it doesn't look good. Who the hell would come in if it continues falling apart ? No one decent wanted the job before, even less likely now. The squad has been left to deteriorate over the past few seasons and we are going to need a massive overhaul. If not buying players then we need to utilise the loan system, especially from abroad (as we already have one PL loan player). If PV is astute enough, he will look to move some of these spent players on - perhaps in January.
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Crystal_Clear

Belfast 24 Aug 21 10.48pm

Originally posted by robdave2k

Got this horrible feeling that this was it for Vieria tonight.

Don’t get me wrong - not calling for him to go by any means, but sometimes there is that game or that moment that defines things. That didn’t look like a side playing for him - and RH has to take a lot of the blame as he killed a lot of confidence in the side.

Like Roy Keane, I don’t think he’s experienced a lot of adversity and is managing players who were beneath his level. But it all just has that feeling. It doesn’t feel quite right, no matter how much we’d like it to.

I don't see us hitting the panic button, but with up and coming fixtures it doesn't look good.
Who the hell would come in if it continues falling apart ? No one decent wanted the job before, even less likely now.
The squad has been left to deteriorate over the past few seasons and we are going to need a massive overhaul. If not buying players then we need to utilise the loan system, especially from abroad (as we already have one PL loan player).
If PV is astute enough, he will look to move some of these spent players on - perhaps in January.

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ex hibitionist Hastings 24 Aug 21 10.48pm
we're just gonna have to patient, it's going to be a bit grim for a couple of months at least, not having seen the game I can't comment on the team not playing for Vieira, but it's clear he has an idea of how the game should be played and we haven't got enough players to play that way. We still have two full backs who should be reserves, the central defence is fine, but Gallagher's inclusion has been more than off set by Olise and Eze's absence, while the forward line is showing signs of decline like our midfield has done. It will be tempting to get on Vieira's case, he'll get criticism for the Mitchell substitution tonight, but he must be given time for injured players to return and new players to fit in. Hopefully we get Hughes over the line plus a full back and forward in b4 the deadline.
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we're just gonna have to patient, it's going to be a bit grim for a couple of months at least, not having seen the game I can't comment on the team not playing for Vieira, but it's clear he has an idea of how the game should be played and we haven't got enough players to play that way. We still have two full backs who should be reserves,
the central defence is fine, but Gallagher's inclusion has been more than off set by Olise and Eze's absence, while the forward line is showing signs of decline like our midfield has done. It will be tempting to get on Vieira's case, he'll get criticism for the Mitchell substitution tonight, but he must be given time for injured players to return and new players to fit in. Hopefully we get Hughes over the line plus a full back and forward in b4 the deadline.

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Alex55 SM1 24 Aug 21 10.56pm
I too did not see the game. But from the commentary we had 3 clear chances to score in the first half and missed them all. I might be naive but doesn't that mean that we need a goalscorer ie someone who would put the ball in the net. '- Really? Honestly? Back in the USSR,,,you don't know how lucky you are.
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Alex55

SM1 24 Aug 21 10.56pm

I too did not see the game. But from the commentary we had 3 clear chances to score in the first half and missed them all. I might be naive but doesn't that mean that we need a goalscorer ie someone who would put the ball in the net.

'- Really? Honestly? Back in the USSR,,,you don't know how lucky you are.

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Wilbraham413 24 Aug 21 11.11pm
I didn't see the match, but I saw the stats. We had massive possession advantage, more shots, more shots on goal, and more corners. From the stats, it looks like we dominated the game. I see that as a positive thing. Last year, we were dominated almost every match, and had to hope for a lucky bounce, or Wilf miracle. True, our forwards are still hopeless, but that should be relatively easy to fix. The rest of the team looks ok, doesn't it? Especially once we get Eze and Olise back? I'm usually doom and gloom, but I honestly think we are more competitive this year than last year. 2017 Feb. (Van Aanholt) Palace 1 - 0 Middlesboro 2018 Jan. (Sako) Palace 1 - 0 Burnley 2019 May (Batshuayi, Batshuayi, OG, Van Aanholt, Townsend) Palace 5 - 3 Bournemouth 2020 Feb. (Van Aanholt) Palace 1 - 0 Newcastle
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24 Aug 21 11.11pm

I didn't see the match, but I saw the stats. We had massive possession advantage, more shots, more shots on goal, and more corners. From the stats, it looks like we dominated the game.

I see that as a positive thing. Last year, we were dominated almost every match, and had to hope for a lucky bounce, or Wilf miracle.

True, our forwards are still hopeless, but that should be relatively easy to fix. The rest of the team looks ok, doesn't it? Especially once we get Eze and Olise back?

I'm usually doom and gloom, but I honestly think we are more competitive this year than last year.

2017 Feb. (Van Aanholt) Palace 1 - 0 Middlesboro
2018 Jan. (Sako) Palace 1 - 0 Burnley
2019 May (Batshuayi, Batshuayi, OG, Van Aanholt, Townsend) Palace 5 - 3 Bournemouth
2020 Feb. (Van Aanholt) Palace 1 - 0 Newcastle

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Sportyteacher London 24 Aug 21 11.14pm
Far from being the end of the world at this stage of the season. Vierra still moulding together a team with many new players with the results against Watford and every other Prem. Team far more important in the league than in Cup comps. High possession rate and increased number of chances on goal suggests progress. The fact that we didn't score is no different to previous seasons and reinforces the need to focus upon quality of strike play.
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Sportyteacher

London 24 Aug 21 11.14pm

Far from being the end of the world at this stage of the season. Vierra still moulding together a team with many new players with the results against Watford and every other Prem. Team far more important in the league than in Cup comps.

High possession rate and increased number of chances on goal suggests progress. The fact that we didn't score is no different to previous seasons and reinforces the need to focus upon quality of strike play.

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maddog Wiltshire 24 Aug 21 11.15pm
Originally posted by robdave2k Got this horrible feeling that this was it for Vieria tonight. Don’t get me wrong - not calling for him to go by any means, but sometimes there is that game or that moment that defines things. That didn’t look like a side playing for him - and RH has to take a lot of the blame as he killed a lot of confidence in the side. Like Roy Keane, I don’t think he’s experienced a lot of adversity and is managing players who were beneath his level. But it all just has that feeling. It doesn’t feel quite right, no matter how much we’d like it to. True but it’s rarely a Carabao Cup match in August! Still ‘Work in Progress’ I would say.
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maddog

Wiltshire 24 Aug 21 11.15pm

Originally posted by robdave2k

Got this horrible feeling that this was it for Vieria tonight.

Don’t get me wrong - not calling for him to go by any means, but sometimes there is that game or that moment that defines things. That didn’t look like a side playing for him - and RH has to take a lot of the blame as he killed a lot of confidence in the side.

True but it’s rarely a Carabao Cup match in August!

Still ‘Work in Progress’ I would say.

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 24 Aug 21 11.23pm
Originally posted by Pete53 For a quite a long time I couldn't get on to the Holmesdale site - even now it's a bit slow, so perhaps others have given up. Snap!
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croydon proud

Any european country i fancy! 24 Aug 21 11.23pm

Originally posted by Pete53

For a quite a long time I couldn't get on to the Holmesdale site - even now it's a bit slow, so perhaps others have given up.

Snap!

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BlueJay UK 24 Aug 21 11.28pm
Originally posted by robdave2k Got this horrible feeling that this was it for Vieria tonight. Don’t get me wrong - not calling for him to go by any means, but sometimes there is that game or that moment that defines things. That didn’t look like a side playing for him - and RH has to take a lot of the blame as he killed a lot of confidence in the side. Like Roy Keane, I don’t think he’s experienced a lot of adversity and is managing players who were beneath his level. But it all just has that feeling. It doesn’t feel quite right, no matter how much we’d like it to. I'd put it more into the teething problems box. There are always going to be a settling in period and I don't see this result as being the be all and end all in the big picture.
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BlueJay

UK 24 Aug 21 11.28pm

Originally posted by robdave2k

Got this horrible feeling that this was it for Vieria tonight.

I'd put it more into the teething problems box. There are always going to be a settling in period and I don't see this result as being the be all and end all in the big picture.

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Gribbo Bromley 24 Aug 21 11.56pm
Been saying it for months, not sure where this website is hosted, but the performance is absolute pants on match day. Come on chaps, sort it out.
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Gribbo

Bromley 24 Aug 21 11.56pm

Been saying it for months, not sure where this website is hosted, but the performance is absolute pants on match day. Come on chaps, sort it out.

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BlueJay UK 25 Aug 21 12.01am
Originally posted by Gribbo Been saying it for months, not sure where this website is hosted, but the performance is absolute pants on match day. Come on chaps, sort it out. Lets all put a pound in the jar..
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BlueJay

UK 25 Aug 21 12.01am

Originally posted by Gribbo

Been saying it for months, not sure where this website is hosted, but the performance is absolute pants on match day. Come on chaps, sort it out.

Lets all put a pound in the jar..

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Watfordfc 25 Aug 21 12.07am
From our perspective it was a good night, quite a few players getting much needed game time and 2/3 wins this season, probably would have taken that before a ball was kicked this season. From a neutral perspective It'll be interesting to see how the Vieira era goes for you. Some tough fixtures coming up and very hard to climb back up once you fall behind, as we learnt. That said, I think you'll be more than fine
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Watfordfc

25 Aug 21 12.07am

From our perspective it was a good night, quite a few players getting much needed game time and 2/3 wins this season, probably would have taken that before a ball was kicked this season.

From a neutral perspective It'll be interesting to see how the Vieira era goes for you. Some tough fixtures coming up and very hard to climb back up once you fall behind, as we learnt. That said, I think you'll be more than fine

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