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View Frickin Saweet's Profile Frickin Saweet Flag South Cronx 25 Aug 21 3.30pm Send a Private Message to Frickin Saweet Add Frickin Saweet as a friend

Originally posted by palace chick

Disagree that we need a striker that can score at the top level, what we need are midfielders that can supply strikers and also midfielders that can score goals between them. Goals need to come from all over, including defenders at set plays. Yes, Benteke needs service from out wide which isn’t happening but he is a top striker in my opinion for which we rely on just him? Would have been interesting to see what Vieira would have done with Townsend? Midfielders need to open up play as well for which our one seem better defensively but not attacking wise? Let’s hope we get some quality in before the window closes.

Realise posters have picked up and disagree with me about Benteke but my main points are that we don’t have goals throughout the team, Especially midfielders. Plus the existing midfielders don’t have a split the opponents defence pass to give our forward(s) goal scoring chances. If Benteke had more than one chance a game he would stick at least one away unlike Mateta at this time. I understand we made chances for him last night and no goals resulted? Perhaps Vieira is changing things but we need goals from everyone and not just the main forward. Sadly Zaha doesn’t seem the player he was as well :-(

Edited by palace chick (25 Aug 2021 1.11pm)

I don't really disagree with anything you're saying about the rest of the team needing to contribute to goals. However Benteke has proven beyond doubt that he's a waste of space and we need to move on from him.

 

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View spartakev2's Profile spartakev2 Flag Anerley 25 Aug 21 4.28pm Send a Private Message to spartakev2 Add spartakev2 as a friend

Benteke is not a top striker. He will only score if you put the ball on his head without him having to actually move. Sometimes think he has his boots on the wrong feet. What will help us score goals and the midfield create more, would be a decent nippy forward who actually made decent runs to allow the midfield to be creative.

Originally posted by palace chick

Disagree that we need a striker that can score at the top level, what we need are midfielders that can supply strikers and also midfielders that can score goals between them. Goals need to come from all over, including defenders at set plays. Yes, Benteke needs service from out wide which isn’t happening but he is a top striker in my opinion for which we rely on just him? Would have been interesting to see what Vieira would have done with Townsend? Midfielders need to open up play as well for which our one seem better defensively but not attacking wise? Let’s hope we get some quality in before the window closes.

Realise posters have picked up and disagree with me about Benteke but my main points are that we don’t have goals throughout the team, Especially midfielders. Plus the existing midfielders don’t have a split the opponents defence pass to give our forward(s) goal scoring chances. If Benteke had more than one chance a game he would stick at least one away unlike Mateta at this time. I understand we made chances for him last night and no goals resulted? Perhaps Vieira is changing things but we need goals from everyone and not just the main forward. Sadly Zaha doesn’t seem the player he was as well :-(

Edited by palace chick (25 Aug 2021 1.11pm)

 

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View Fatherken's Profile Fatherken Flag 25 Aug 21 4.33pm Send a Private Message to Fatherken Add Fatherken as a friend

Remember it was Mateta that missed most of chances in the game .
Now there is a player we could well do without .

 

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View kennybrowns leftfoot's Profile kennybrowns leftfoot Flag Reigate 25 Aug 21 5.00pm Send a Private Message to kennybrowns leftfoot Add kennybrowns leftfoot as a friend

Originally posted by Frickin Saweet

none of those players were worth keeping and were a significant financial drain. As is clear, and has been for a long time, our problem is our attacking/goalscoring and not much has changed or been lost there. We need a striker that can score at the top level. That coupled with Olise and Eze returning should sort things out somewhat

It doesn't matter whether they were worth keeping or not (which a few of them were) They nearly all played a role in the first team. Allowing a squad to deteriorate to that level is not healthy for morale or good business sense. And not fair on a new Manager coming in to try and build a new team.

I'd love for you to show me another Premiership club who have the same business model as us and allowed that to happen.

 


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View Frickin Saweet's Profile Frickin Saweet Flag South Cronx 25 Aug 21 10.14pm Send a Private Message to Frickin Saweet Add Frickin Saweet as a friend

Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot

It doesn't matter whether they were worth keeping or not (which a few of them were) They nearly all played a role in the first team. Allowing a squad to deteriorate to that level is not healthy for morale or good business sense. And not fair on a new Manager coming in to try and build a new team.

I'd love for you to show me another Premiership club who have the same business model as us and allowed that to happen.

Of course it matters. If it 'wasn't fair' on a manager Vieira wouldn't have signed. He knows what he's walked into. Players have spoken of their excitement about Vieira so any lack of morale is in your head not the players. Only time will tell if it was the right thing to do, and it's far too early to call it one way or another yet. I am glad we had the clear out and are trying to move the club on, fail or succeed.

 

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View DANGERCLOSE's Profile DANGERCLOSE Flag london 25 Aug 21 10.52pm Send a Private Message to DANGERCLOSE Add DANGERCLOSE as a friend

We should have won this in the first half but for poor finishing and indecisions let us down against a mostly reserve Watford team.

Stand out players for me were again Andersen, Guehi and Gallaher.

My concerns are Mateta, he reminds me of Sanogo, we defo need a upgrade.

SP needs to splash the cash or we will be trouble, he needs to back PV in the transfer market or just forget the whole thing and employ big Sam imo

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag London 25 Aug 21 11.01pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Where are our goals going to come from? Genuine and very concerned question.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 26 Aug 21 7.44am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Where are our goals going to come from? Genuine and very concerned question.

A new striker who will take his chances

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 26 Aug 21 8.36am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

A new striker who will take his chances

Indeed. And god willing it will happen. A player that has the cojones to say "I'm number one". The reaction of the other three, who have found a cozy comfort zone niche, will be worthwhile observing.

 

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