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View Omph's Profile Omph Flag Liverpool 01 Sep 21 10.24am Send a Private Message to Omph Add Omph as a friend

Originally posted by palace99

on paper a great signing and clearly at a price a lot lower than it would have been a year ago. A little concerned with the wages we are paying him and Hughes in this post covid environment but lets face it Palace is hardly the biggest name in the Prem.

He is definitely a class above what we have but clearly will need the service and also the right mentality to succeed - you only have to look at Tekkers, a proven international striker to see how things can go wrong.


I watched him score a hat trick 1st game of last season v Hamilton. All 3 goals were scored in the 6 yard box. He may not get the same number of opportunities in 10 games at Palace!!

However, he has pace and an eye for goal, so just seeing a striker in the 6 yard box when a cross comes in would be nice. Fed up seeing Tekkers hiding behind the last defender and Zaha not even making a run into the box when we attack from the opposite side.

Lets give the guy time to adjust both the Palace and the Prem. We are a bit of a graveyard for strikers at times.

You'd be surprised.

Let's bust a myth here.

Take a look at this analysis of Benteke and Antonio from last season. Tekkers had more shots, more shots on target and from closer range! Not a lot in it but the comparison is pretty exact.

Goal output - identical. Tekkers had a slightly better goal per minute ratio

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View Phil’s Barber's Profile Phil’s Barber Flag Crowborough 01 Sep 21 10.39am Send a Private Message to Phil’s Barber Add Phil’s Barber as a friend

Originally posted by Omph

You'd be surprised.

Let's bust a myth here.

Take a look at this analysis of Benteke and Antonio from last season. Tekkers had more shots, more shots on target and from closer range! Not a lot in it but the comparison is pretty exact.

Goal output - identical. Tekkers had a slightly better goal per minute ratio

Yes, CB had a vey good goals per minute ratio last season, way better than Wilf who was often highly praised for his goal scoring exploits last season.

 

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View Phil’s Barber's Profile Phil’s Barber Flag Crowborough 01 Sep 21 10.55am Send a Private Message to Phil’s Barber Add Phil’s Barber as a friend

Originally posted by Aray

I have one minor issue with the signing - its only for 4 years. That means we have 2 years before we either should be trying to sell him before his value depreciates, or we need to give him a payrise to get him to extend.


I reckon Edouard is going to be a massive hit for us. He’s only 23 and now has a huge opportunity to put the last 12 months behind him and refind his form. He was clearly unhappy at Celtic and no longer wanted to be there or perform for them.

I think he will be immense and as a result one of the bigger boys will be in for him before too long, Everton for instance, as a replacement for Richarlison when they finally sell him or Tottenham when Bale finally gets his move.

 

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View babylonjohn's Profile babylonjohn Flag St Leonards-on-Sea 01 Sep 21 11.05am Send a Private Message to babylonjohn Add babylonjohn as a friend

Originally posted by Aray

As always with you Syd - an excellent post. I read some Celtic fans blaming Lennon for the fall out. I'm hoping that is why he became disenchanted. Also - no matter how big Celtic are, the bottom line is - its a weak league.

I have one minor issue with the signing - its only for 4 years. That means we have 2 years before we either should be trying to sell him before his value depreciates, or we need to give him a payrise to get him to extend.

What are you on about? How many footballers do you know on contracts longer than 4 years ?

 

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View Omph's Profile Omph Flag Liverpool 01 Sep 21 11.30am Send a Private Message to Omph Add Omph as a friend

Originally posted by Phil’s Barber

Yes, CB had a vey good goals per minute ratio last season, way better than Wilf who was often highly praised for his goal scoring exploits last season.

Notable I think that Tekkers hit form when Eze began to come into his own and that also coincided with Wilf falling off as an outlet for goals. The pattern of out play changed fairly significantly to me. Wilf was wider and we were less predictable as an attacking unit as we had more than one outlet from defence. Put simply I suspect Tekkers had more space than he had when everything was channeled down the left to Wilf.

Have an open mind right now about the respective merits of Edouard and Tekkers - not least because I'v only caught highlight reels of Edouard. I do think though that Tekkers has too easily been written off by many here. One of the more encouraging things I heard Vieira say was that Tekkers is among the very best headers of the ball in the league. Backed up the number of goals he scored with his head last season - close to a league high. It's a weapon and the first goal against WH came via that route - simply a knock down for Gallagher to finish.

 

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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 01 Sep 21 11.52am Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Originally posted by Omph

I do think though that Tekkers has too easily been written off by many here. One of the more encouraging things I heard Vieira say was that Tekkers is among the very best headers of the ball in the league. Backed up the number of goals he scored with his head last season - close to a league high. It's a weapon and the first goal against WH came via that route - simply a knock down for Gallagher to finish.

Ay, yes, but there is a growing call for heading in the game to be banned. So his days may be numbered.

 


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Originally posted by Omph

You'd be surprised.

Let's bust a myth here.

Take a look at this analysis of Benteke and Antonio from last season. Tekkers had more shots, more shots on target and from closer range! Not a lot in it but the comparison is pretty exact.

Goal output - identical. Tekkers had a slightly better goal per minute ratio

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if you extended your analysis over the last 4 years and not just the purple batch Tekkers enjoyed over the last few months of last season i suspect the results will not be so good.

Just look at the last home game v Brentford. 2nd half Wilf attacks down the left and puts a decent ball into the 6 yard box. Tekkers at no point makes a run into space and 'hides' behind the defender.

This is not a one off he has been doing the same for a number of years. The occasional exception e.g near post header v WBA away, does not make Tekkers a 6 yard box poacher.

 

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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 01 Sep 21 2.14pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by babylonjohn

What are you on about? How many footballers do you know on contracts longer than 4 years ?

Sky were reporting it as five years yesterday. Seemed like a long time to me.

 


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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 01 Sep 21 2.22pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by Phil’s Barber


I reckon Edouard is going to be a massive hit for us. He’s only 23 and now has a huge opportunity to put the last 12 months behind him and refind his form. He was clearly unhappy at Celtic and no longer wanted to be there or perform for them.

I think he will be immense and as a result one of the bigger boys will be in for him before too long, Everton for instance, as a replacement for Richarlison when they finally sell him or Tottenham when Bale finally gets his move.

I hope he is a hit, but he has come from a league equivalent to our league1 overall. It’s a big step up, Sorloth and Mateta couldn’t do it. I doubt he will feature for sometime, unless we have injuries.
The expectation sometimes is too much for some players,it will be interesting to see how he performs.

 

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Originally posted by babylonjohn

What are you on about? How many footballers do you know on contracts longer than 4 years ?

I wouldn't be surprised if we have the option of a further year.

 

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View Hudsoneagle's Profile Hudsoneagle Flag 01 Sep 21 2.38pm Send a Private Message to Hudsoneagle Add Hudsoneagle as a friend

Originally posted by palace99

if you extended your analysis over the last 4 years and not just the purple batch Tekkers enjoyed over the last few months of last season i suspect the results will not be so good.

Just look at the last home game v Brentford. 2nd half Wilf attacks down the left and puts a decent ball into the 6 yard box. Tekkers at no point makes a run into space and 'hides' behind the defender.

This is not a one off he has been doing the same for a number of years. The occasional exception e.g near post header v WBA away, does not make Tekkers a 6 yard box poacher.

I do have some sympathy with our forwards...Wilf doesn't exactly release the ball as early as they would want. Can you imagine making a run only to constantly find Wilf wants to keep the ball to himself!

I have heard so many top ex strikers point out that early balls into the box are key. Wilf, for all his pace and flair, actually manages to slow down our attacks sometimes. I would love to see Wilf play some first time crosses now and then.

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag London 01 Sep 21 2.42pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Originally posted by Hudsoneagle

I wouldn't be surprised if we have the option of a further year.

We do

 

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