So when you don't like the data it is fake and when you do it is ok?

What you have failed to show is that there is a link between crime and immigration.

I see that you want to draw a convenient line as to when the mass migrations that worries you begin.

The 40,000 and 50,000 Huguenots that came to Britain between 1670 to 1710 or the 150,000 Jews that settled in Britain from the late 19th century until the early 20th century are of no concern to you? I understand that you want to start your argument with the arrival of the Empire Windrush in 1948?

What you describe as 'waffle' is just information that you find difficult to deal with. The logic of your argument is shot to pieces if you resort to rubbish such as, "often correlation is the cause". This means nothing and I am pretty sure that you know it. Correlation with what?

You going to have to sort yourself out regarding statistical methodology if you want to pursue this root.

there is no causal link between a ton of 'ethnic group x' arriving into the country and thereafter a ton of the same ethnic group ending up in prison.....

cos its all just prejudice & racism, innit kuge ?

I used the home office's own statistics and quoted the home office words which stated the increase.....roughly double the rate from the sixties.

I don't know how clearer that can be.

As for you comparing 50, 000 Europeans over a 40 year period to today where two times that come in every year many from vastly different cultures....When the numbers are in the many millions that have settled here since WW2.

I don't think I can take your responses seriously now.

I've started listening to the 'fall of Rome' book and so far even it's not making your original commentary that immigration played no part look very credible.

I think for my part I'd like to end it here as I don't think this is very productive.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Sep 2021 10.01pm)

Just when I am sure that you are an idiot ...

There are 2,000,000 more people in London than there were 20 years ago. These are people who need homes, jobs, schools, hospitals, etc. At what stage does the population become unsupportable?

For me, and I probably have my ‘simple’ head on but people should be able to live where they want and be allowed to make a better left for themselves. These ppl are desperate, sleeping in dangerous conditions. The money we give to France, can we need build new communities, schools etc..,

I read that only a small % of the uk is actually built on.

My British passport allows me to visit many countries, the majority of them without a visa. But if you have a different passport, you might not be so lucky. How is this fair?

Fortunately this problem is not going away and there is nothing that can really be done. Thousands of ppl
Arrive each day with no papers so eventually we have to take responsibility for them. Over the next 100 years, England/Uk will be more diverse than ever. Population will be 80-90 million and hopefully we can be a super power once again,