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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 26 Nov 21 4.28pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

The UK left the EU where we had the ability to return refugees to the first EU country they arrived in.

Only now for the UK to ask France in public on Twitter to accept UK-arrived refugees, even though the UK is now outside the EU and doesn’t have that right because of Brexit.

 

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View Orange1290's Profile Orange1290 Flag 26 Nov 21 4.31pm Send a Private Message to Orange1290 Add Orange1290 as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

you mean ''tens of thousands of young men, of military age, who came here of their own volition.

Mostly from countries not currently at War.


Mostly from countries that were attacked, bombed and invaded by the US and the UK, devastating any form of economy they had before those events.

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 26 Nov 21 5.01pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Orange1290


Mostly from countries that were attacked, bombed and invaded by the US and the UK, devastating any form of economy they had before those events.

The top two countries of origin for asylum seekers are Iran and Albania. How much attacking and bombing have we done there?

 

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 26 Nov 21 5.12pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

it's a tricky one. Any migrant that turns up in someone's country have a very difficult time assessing their country of origin, and the reason behind their travel.
'Normally', only natural catastrophes and war would cause such sizable shifts in populace.
So their reason for moving could be down to a number of factors, but the fact they choose to risk death to cross the channel on inflatables (and in high numbers) gives an indication of their determination to reach the UK.

With all the 5hlt going on around the UK, it makes you wonder why ? Migrant housing isn't exactly palatial. Benefits are cr@p. The NHS is under severe strain, there aren't enough houses. Food is limited and so are job opportunities. And the weather is a bit 5h1t too
Given the low number of females, one might argue that the ones being detained are probably not sex workers being trafficked. So a lot of young men evading poverty ? conscription ? or just seeking a better life. Perhaps in employment, or maybe joining organised crime gangs. ?

If we could get a grip on the main motivators for coming to the UK, then that would be a start.

Asking the French to do anything is a waste of time. They are very good at blockading ports and boarding vessels when it suits them ,.
Very good at selling arms to Argentina when they are fighting the UK

Edited by becky (26 Nov 2021 5.56pm)

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 26 Nov 21 5.25pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

it's a tricky one. Any migrant that turns up in someone's country have a very difficult time assessing their country of origin, and the reason behind their travel.
'Normally', only natural catastrophes and war would cause such sizable shifts in populace.
So their reason for moving could be down to a number of factors, but the fact they choose to risk death to cross the channel on inflatables (and in high numbers) gives an indication of their determination to reach the UK.

With all the 5hlt going on around the UK, it makes you wonder why ? Migrant housing isn't exactly palatial. Benefits are cr@p. The NHS is under severe strain, there aren't enough houses. Food is limited and so are job opportunities. And the weather is a bit 5h1t too
Given the low number of females, one might argue that the ones being detained are probably not sex workers being trafficked. So a lot of young men evading poverty ? conscription ? or just seeking a better life. Perhaps in employment, or maybe joining organised crime gangs. ?

If we could get a grip on the main motivators for coming to the UK, then that would be a start.

Asking the French to do anything is a waste of time. They are very good at blockading ports and boarding vessels when it suits them ,.
Very good at selling arms to Argentina when they are fighting the UK

Freedom and to live normally as we do.

That's all they want.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 26 Nov 21 5.40pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

We voted to abolish the returns agreement with brexit, we could have returned people before we left, if the will was there, now we can"t!Now, we alone control our borders, sounds great in theory, in practice we are a sitting duck for refugees to come. And asking the French to take the refugees/migrants back, isn"t going to wash, why would they? Great to see the French get some backbone and take control, by telling Priti shes not welcome in negotiations, it might force the issue and we can get someone who actually knows what they are doing in charge!

You sure do hate your country.

 

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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 26 Nov 21 5.56pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

it's a tricky one. Any migrant that turns up in someone's country have a very difficult time assessing their country of origin, and the reason behind their travel.
'Normally', only natural catastrophes and war would cause such sizable shifts in populace.
So their reason for moving could be down to a number of factors, but the fact they choose to risk death to cross the channel on inflatables (and in high numbers) gives an indication of their determination to reach the UK.

With all the 5hlt going on around the UK, it makes you wonder why ? Migrant housing isn't exactly palatial. Benefits are cr@p. The NHS is under severe strain, there aren't enough houses. Food is limited and so are job opportunities. And the weather is a bit 5h1t too
Given the low number of females, one might argue that the ones being detained are probably not sex workers being trafficked. So a lot of young men evading poverty ? conscription ? or just seeking a better life. Perhaps in employment, or maybe joining organised crime gangs. ?

If we could get a grip on the main motivators for coming to the UK, then that would be a start.

Asking the French to do anything is a waste of time. They are very good at blockading ports and boarding vessels when it suits them ,.
Very good at selling arms to Argentina when they are fighting the UK


Safer if they leave the wives & children behind - once they are 'in' they can bring them over legally, together with parents, aunts, uncles, cousins, etc. etc. etc.

Edited by becky (26 Nov 2021 5.55pm)

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 26 Nov 21 5.58pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by becky

Safer if they leave the wives & children behind - once they are 'in' they can bring them over legally, together with parents, aunts, uncles, cousins, etc. etc. etc.

Edited by becky (26 Nov 2021 5.55pm)

You mean like Priti Patel did?

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 26 Nov 21 6.04pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

The top two countries of origin for asylum seekers are Iran and Albania. How much attacking and bombing have we done there?

what nationalities now dominate the distribution of Heroin & Cocaine in the UK ?

gangs from pakistan, or Albania, or Turkey ?

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 26 Nov 21 6.06pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Orange1290


Mostly from countries that were attacked, bombed and invaded by the US and the UK, devastating any form of economy they had before those events.

Can’t remember when we invaded Albania, Gambia, Ivory Coast, Senegal, Central African Republic, I could go on, all these nationalities see in last week but I am sure you will enlighten me

 

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Originally posted by steeleye20

The UK left the EU where we had the ability to return refugees to the first EU country they arrived in.

Only now for the UK to ask France in public on Twitter to accept UK-arrived refugees, even though the UK is now outside the EU and doesn’t have that right because of Brexit.

If only you knew how few were accepted back

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 26 Nov 21 6.13pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Freedom and to live normally as we do.

That's all they want.

Heartfelt sentiments from you I am sure and very commendable but many are no more than economic migrants who come from countries that have no political problems, even working illegally here they will earn more than at home ( on the whole), do you blame them…. No, would I do the same…. Probably. However this does not mean we can continue the numbers that are coming in

 

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