Superman is bisexual
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 Hrolf The Ganger  13 Oct 21 7.22pm |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
Well the original Superman came from another planet but had a thing with Lois Lane, so there as nothing implying that he wasn't attracted to human beings, or didn't have time to engage in relationships. Yeah, interspecies sex seemed to be OK with the public. Maybe it is because Superman has the same bits as everyone else. I have no objection to a gay superhero, although I don't know why sexuality has to be an issue at all. I think the problem is that it's all done for sensationalism and to promote one minority demographic.
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cryrst  The garden of England 13 Oct 21 7.28pm |
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His partner might regret turning his back on him.
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| Stirlingsays 13 Oct 21 7.35pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
His partner might regret turning his back on him. Superman v Batman suddenly takes on a whole new perspective. 'If it bleeds.....I can fill it'.
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| BlueJay UK 13 Oct 21 8.20pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Yeah, interspecies sex seemed to be OK with the public. Maybe it is because Superman has the same bits as everyone else. I have no objection to a gay superhero, although I don't know why sexuality has to be an issue at all. I think the problem is that it's all done for sensationalism and to promote one minority demographic. Logically there should be superheroes of all demographics; black, white, rich, poor (ones cutting prices at a stroke).. Characters like this will always annoy some simply by their existence, it wouldn't matter how the character was portrayed or written. A more interesting and relevant perspective is how they are perceived by people within said demographics, since the characters are of course supposed to be reflective of them. This is where they often fall short in my view, because the problem with something being politically as much as socially motivated is that it's often a token addition rather than a fleshed out original character. Where a character is replaced, it's just 'bolted on' difference and so becoming a character in its own right is a non-starter. So if anyone should be insulted or annoyed by such reboots it's probably the people in said demographics who have to put up with tacky, one dimensional, politicised takes on who they are (in this case someone who is gay and flying around saving refugees and the environment, none of which are particularly connected in any way outside of politics).
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| Hrolf The Ganger 14 Oct 21 5.36pm |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
Logically there should be superheroes of all demographics; black, white, rich, poor (ones cutting prices at a stroke).. Characters like this will always annoy some simply by their existence, it wouldn't matter how the character was portrayed or written. A more interesting and relevant perspective is how they are perceived by people within said demographics, since the characters are of course supposed to be reflective of them. This is where they often fall short in my view, because the problem with something being politically as much as socially motivated is that it's often a token addition rather than a fleshed out original character. Where a character is replaced, it's just 'bolted on' difference and so becoming a character in its own right is a non-starter. So if anyone should be insulted or annoyed by such reboots it's probably the people in said demographics who have to put up with tacky, one dimensional, politicised takes on who they are (in this case someone who is gay and flying around saving refugees and the environment, none of which are particularly connected in any way outside of politics).
Well yes. I often wonder who is more offended or embarrassed by tokenisms. Those who object to the disproportionate promotion of minorities, or the members of that minority who have to endure fawning and often stereotypical characterizations.
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jeeagles  15 Oct 21 10.46am |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
Logically there should be superheroes of all demographics; black, white, rich, poor (ones cutting prices at a stroke).. Characters like this will always annoy some simply by their existence, it wouldn't matter how the character was portrayed or written. A more interesting and relevant perspective is how they are perceived by people within said demographics, since the characters are of course supposed to be reflective of them. This is where they often fall short in my view, because the problem with something being politically as much as socially motivated is that it's often a token addition rather than a fleshed out original character. Where a character is replaced, it's just 'bolted on' difference and so becoming a character in its own right is a non-starter. So if anyone should be insulted or annoyed by such reboots it's probably the people in said demographics who have to put up with tacky, one dimensional, politicised takes on who they are (in this case someone who is gay and flying around saving refugees and the environment, none of which are particularly connected in any way outside of politics). In this case, even the BBC said it was jumping on the bandwagon. As Robin was made bisexual a few weeks ago it does seem that way. In any case, Superman is an Alien, I'm not sure there is a word yet for sexual attraction between ficional interterrestrial species. I'd also doubt that the all powerful Superman would find an inferior human attractive. For him it must be like dating a neanderthal. But stories about fiction cartoon characters shouldn't get adults so upset.
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Teddy Eagle  15 Oct 21 1.23pm |
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 becky over the moon 15 Oct 21 3.29pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
In this case, even the BBC said it was jumping on the bandwagon. As Robin was made bisexual a few weeks ago it does seem that way. In any case, Superman is an Alien, I'm not sure there is a word yet for sexual attraction between ficional interterrestrial species. But stories about fiction cartoon characters shouldn't get adults so upset. Not a concept that many on here (especially the late, lamented Tom) would understand....
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| BlueJay UK 15 Oct 21 3.45pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
In this case, even the BBC said it was jumping on the bandwagon. As Robin was made bisexual a few weeks ago it does seem that way. In any case, Superman is an Alien, I'm not sure there is a word yet for sexual attraction between ficional interterrestrial species. I'd also doubt that the all powerful Superman would find an inferior human attractive. For him it must be like dating a neanderthal. But stories about fiction cartoon characters shouldn't get adults so upset. True, the more angered someone gets by something so inconsequential the more is justifies it to begin with really. As with most things in life the balance will be perceived to be off in this direction and then that over the decades, much to the disappointment of one group and glee of another. Rinse and repeat.
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| Stirlingsays 15 Oct 21 4.37pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Why bother with any of this? Just put up a card before every film/ tv show saying every character identifies as pan-sexual, omni-gendered and multi-racial. And waving their vaccine passport.....though I'd imagine Superman doesn't catch viruses....only hotties now apparently. Why does everything have to be sexualised?....Why does Dr Who now want to shag his/her assistants... p1sses me off....Perhaps that's the primary aim. I suppose because Superman was meant to be apple pie American they gave him Lane but the character was never sexual. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Oct 2021 4.42pm)
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| Teddy Eagle 15 Oct 21 4.46pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
And waving their vaccine passport.....though I'd imagine Superman doesn't catch viruses....only hotties now apparently. Why does everything have to be sexualised?....Why does Dr Who now want to shag his/her assistants... p1sses me off....Perhaps that's the primary aim. I suppose because Superman was meant to be apple pie American they gave him Lane but the character was never sexual. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Oct 2021 4.42pm) And the fact Superman appeared in kids’ comics and they wouldn’t have been remotely interested in who he cuddled up with. He was from an age when entertainment was enough.
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| BlueJay UK 16 Oct 21 12.19am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
And the fact Superman appeared in kids’ comics and they wouldn’t have been remotely interested in who he cuddled up with. He was from an age when entertainment was enough. Kids still aren't. They weren't interested or bothered when he cuddled up with Lois Lane and they won't care when he's doing it with a male character. People being more bothered about certain displays of affection than others, does not make said affection more sexual or sexualised in nature. I wouldn't think that Superman comics will suddenly be filled with sex scenes. Admittedly though it may have been better if it had just been a new character. Technically it is, but 'not really'.
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