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View Eaglehamster's Profile Eaglehamster Flag Storrington 29 Oct 21 6.40pm Send a Private Message to Eaglehamster Add Eaglehamster as a friend

Also the John Jackson episode slightly before my time sounds like lunacy.


I've either forgotten this or never knew about it. Someone please enlighten me. (JJ a great keeper IMO)

 


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Originally posted by Qwijibo

Despite the star signing of Andy Dorman, Burley had a terrible squad.

Very good and a fair point. But IIRC his mind wasn't exactly on the job ? A shame as I remember him as quality right back in very good Ipswich team.

 

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Originally posted by Eaglehamster

Also the John Jackson episode slightly before my time sounds like lunacy.


I've either forgotten this or never knew about it. Someone please enlighten me. (JJ a great keeper IMO)

As I understand he bombed Jackson and replaced him with Paul Hammond despite, by all accounts, Jackson being a brilliant GK and our standout player during the spell in the top flight. I only ever saw JJ play against us for Orient including in the penultimate game of the 79 season.

 

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Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

As I understand he bombed Jackson and replaced him with Paul Hammond despite, by all accounts, Jackson being a brilliant GK and our standout player during the spell in the top flight. I only ever saw JJ play against us for Orient including in the penultimate game of the 79 season.

Which i think and hope he let in on purpose, he had a smile all over his face, i was right behind the goal

 


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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Which i think and hope he let in on purpose, he had a smile all over his face, i was right behind the goal

I thought Swindlehurst's header was unstoppable in fairness.

 

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Originally posted by Eaglehamster

Also the John Jackson episode slightly before my time sounds like lunacy.


I've either forgotten this or never knew about it. Someone please enlighten me. (JJ a great keeper IMO)

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but there was a relegation 6 pointer away at Norwich. John Jackson came out for a cross, got baulked, and Norwich scored the winner. I think it was after this game, or soon after, that he was replaced.

 

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List seems to have a very modern bias and forgets that Pardew took Palace to an FA Cup Final and led it for a while - but then he did his stupid dance and it all went wrong in the last 10 minutes. 10 minutes between being one of the greatest Palace managers and being one of the worst.

 


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Originally posted by inflikted

List seems to have a very modern bias and forgets that Pardew took Palace to an FA Cup Final and led it for a while - but then he did his stupid dance and it all went wrong in the last 10 minutes. 10 minutes between being one of the greatest Palace managers and being one of the worst.

Have to say, I just don't agree with this view at all. Pardew was a terrible manager, comfortably one of the worst I've ever seen at the club (and I go back to 1967). The first six months or so including the Cup Final run we had a team that had been together for a while with very strong leadership in the group (starting with Jedi) and they achieved what they did in spite of Pardew, not because of him. That side was dismantled due to Pardew's ego (no dressing room was big enough for his ego to share) and what followed was a complete s***show. The last six month's of his tenure were appalling and it speaks volumes that he's been more or less unemployable since. Listen to those players talk about their time with Pardew; it's as funny as it is sad and pathetic.

As Palace boss, the guy was an unmitigated disaster glossed over with a Cup run that he contributed little to achieving (other than costing us the first trophy in our history when his ego (surprise, surprise) could no longer be contained just ten minutes before the final whistle at Wembley. Any manager who thinks dancing a jig to draw attention to himself rather than doing his f***ing job is an arse of the highest level.)

Can anyone imagine Bert Head, Patrick Vieira, Steve Coppell, or Terry Venables; all proper football managers, behaving in such a stupid, childish, egotistical way with glory within reach. Look at the way Vieira has brought the best out of the players he's inherited, where Pardew just drummed some our key players out of the club because they had too much personality for his fragile little ego to manage.

Edited by sydtheeagle (01 Nov 2021 11.37pm)

Edited by sydtheeagle (02 Nov 2021 8.29am)

 


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Originally posted by sydtheeagle

Have to say, I just don't agree with this view at all. Pardew was a terrible manager, comfortably one of the worst I've ever seen at the club (and I go back to 1967). The first six months or so including the Cup Final run we had a team that had been together for a while with very strong leadership in the group (starting with Jedi) and they achieved what they did in spite of Pardew, not because of him. That side was dismantled due to Pardew's ego (no dressing room was big enough for his ego to share) and what followed was a complete s***show. The last six month's of his tenure were appalling and it speaks volumes that he's been more or less unemployable since. Listen to those players talk about their time with Pardew; it's as funny as it is sad and pathetic.

As Palace boss, the guy was an unmitigated disaster glossed over with a Cup run that he contributed little to achieving (other than costing us the first trophy in our history when his ego (surprise, surprise) could not longer be contained ten minutes before the final whistle at Wembley. Any manager who thinks dancing a jig to draw attention to himself rather than doing his f***ing job is an arse of the highest level.)

Can anyone imagine Bert Head, Patrick Vieira, Steve Coppell, or Terry Venables; all proper football managers, behaving in such a stupid, childish, egotistical way with glory within reach. Look at the way Vieira has brought the best out of the players he's inherited, where Pardew just drummed some our key players out of the club because they had too much personality for his fragile little ego to manage.

Edited by sydtheeagle (01 Nov 2021 11.37pm)


Pardew played and played the dreadful Yaya Sanogo game in game out while keeping the exceptional Glen Murray on the bench.
Fortunately the Arsenal loan man got hurt and through gritted teeth Pardew was forced to reluctantly throw in Glenn who banged in 7 league goals in the last third of the season.
In the middle of this run was Murray's personal dismantling of champions-elect Man City in a 2-1 win.
(Pardew hated it).
So much that he bombed out Glenn for shiny, tattooed and coiffured injury-prone non-goalscoring centre-forward Connor Wickham for £10m the next season.
This signing was so good that come the January window Pardew signed another centre-forward, footballing mercenary Emmanuel Adebayor, who managed one goal.
Meanwhile, Glenn Murray went on to score 58 professional goals elsewhere.
Pardew also signed Jordon Mutch, who immediately took early retirement; Chungy Lee (joke); Steve Mandanda (remember him)?
These are some of the reasons I believe Pardew should not be rated as highly as some think.

 

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Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

I thought Swindlehurst's header was unstoppable in fairness.

you may be right, but he still had a smile on his face, good old Jacko

 


“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

you may be right, but he still had a smile on his face, good old Jacko

For the younger fans Brighton were top of the league, we had a game in hand two games left, Orient away, Burnley at home, we needed to win both, Ex Palace Legend John Jackson was in goal for Orient, who were mid table, Swindlehurst scored late on, and lets say when Jacko picked the ball out of the back of the net he wasn't too upset, then we beat Burnley 2-0 in front of 50,000+ fans, and won the league, if we hadn't won we wouldn't even have been promoted

 


“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

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Originally posted by sydtheeagle

Have to say, I just don't agree with this view at all. Pardew was a terrible manager, comfortably one of the worst I've ever seen at the club (and I go back to 1967). The first six months or so including the Cup Final run we had a team that had been together for a while with very strong leadership in the group (starting with Jedi) and they achieved what they did in spite of Pardew, not because of him. That side was dismantled due to Pardew's ego (no dressing room was big enough for his ego to share) and what followed was a complete s***show. The last six month's of his tenure were appalling and it speaks volumes that he's been more or less unemployable since. Listen to those players talk about their time with Pardew; it's as funny as it is sad and pathetic.

As Palace boss, the guy was an unmitigated disaster glossed over with a Cup run that he contributed little to achieving (other than costing us the first trophy in our history when his ego (surprise, surprise) could not longer be contained ten minutes before the final whistle at Wembley. Any manager who thinks dancing a jig to draw attention to himself rather than doing his f***ing job is an arse of the highest level.)

Can anyone imagine Bert Head, Patrick Vieira, Steve Coppell, or Terry Venables; all proper football managers, behaving in such a stupid, childish, egotistical way with glory within reach. Look at the way Vieira has brought the best out of the players he's inherited, where Pardew just drummed some our key players out of the club because they had too much personality for his fragile little ego to manage.

Edited by sydtheeagle (01 Nov 2021 11.37pm)

Took over a team with 16 points and in the relegation zone and finished the season on 48 points in tenth place. 30 odd points in 19 matches iirc. Not sure the much touted he took over a good team stands up to analysis in his first season. For 12 months under him Palace were indeed a very good team - that spell is by a distance the best Palace have performed in the Premier League.

Also you're cherry picking on transfer business somewhat. He also bought Cabaye and Townsend no? Still two of the best bits of business we have pulled off in my time. Also prepared to cut him slack on Wickham who could indeed have been very good.

Was he rubbish when the wheels fell off. Yes.

 

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