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 Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 20 Oct 22 11.57pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
So why not offer the two best candidates so the country is best served whatever choice is made? They wanted their choice, so they had confidence in them. I agree with them. They had to go through a convoluted process to achieve it, which failed and got us all in a mess. Answer? Dump the process.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 21 Oct 22 12.00am |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
No different to religion. Extremism even So blinded by loyalty and dogma there’s not even a hint of an ability to be self critical or objective Zealots, universally incapable of accepting verifiable truths about themselves and their ‘cause’. Meaningful debate and discussion is pointless with these people. Labour, Cons, all religions. Same old indoctrinated dross It is well documented on HOL that I have been a fervent Conservative member and activist for many a year, campaigning in local and General Elections.I am a member of a CPF (Conservative Policy Forum). The good lady, in a fit of pique, once labelled me a right-wing bigot with entrenched views and a mind like a steel trap (Permanently closed) ! Edited by Willo (21 Oct 2022 12.01am)
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Teddy Eagle  21 Oct 22 12.03am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
They wanted their choice, so they had confidence in them. I agree with them. They had to go through a convoluted process to achieve it, which failed and got us all in a mess. Answer? Dump the process. Another answer; don't trust politicians capable of such a drastic miscalculation let alone let them choose the Prime Minister.
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Henry of Peckham  Eton Mess 21 Oct 22 4.27am |
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Our economic failure is down to the Tories and it can be traced back a lot further than Liz Truss’s misinterventions. We need a stable and respected leader not a self indulgent Oaf. The Tory party needs to reform the way it chooses its leader. It's absurd the way all this has been mishandled in recent weeks. We have become an international laughing stock BUT it is just possible that international partners could rally round to support and address our weaknesses? It is not in their wider interests to see us broken and disheartened. With support, good leadership and stable government I really believe we could rise from the ashes fairly quickly. Edited by Henry of Peckham (21 Oct 2022 4.37am)
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| Matov 21 Oct 22 4.54am |
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Originally posted by Henry of Peckham
Our economic failure is down to the Tories Edited by Henry of Peckham (21 Oct 2022 4.37am) We live in a country with almost full employment. We experienced economic growth in the last quarter, albeit minor but still there. Everywhere I look I see packed bars and cafes. Is everything rosy? Of course not. And inflation is a problem but these are not uniquely British problems. This idea that we are in some kind of economic free-fall is ludicrous. And entirely manufactured.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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| Henry of Peckham Eton Mess 21 Oct 22 5.05am |
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Originally posted by Matov
We live in a country with almost full employment. We experienced economic growth in the last quarter, albeit minor but still there. Everywhere I look I see packed bars and cafes. Is everything rosy? Of course not. And inflation is a problem but these are not uniquely British problems. This idea that we are in some kind of economic free-fall is ludicrous. And entirely manufactured. It's certainly not rosy. You'd need to look further than the bars and cafes and at what type of employment people "enjoy". Have a glance at the NHS, schools, public services generally, foreign owned utilities, transport and banks, what people drive around in and consider ... what could we do better? You actually hit on the word in your last sentence. Edited by Henry of Peckham (21 Oct 2022 6.56am)
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| Midlands Eagle 21 Oct 22 6.13am |
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Originally posted by Henry of Peckham
How can Boris possibly be re-elected as he wouldn't be able to form a government unless all the people who resigned from post under him changed their minds
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| Henry of Peckham Eton Mess 21 Oct 22 6.53am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
How can Boris possibly be re-elected as he wouldn't be able to form a government unless all the people who resigned from post under him changed their minds I believe there were 57 MPs who resigned so that leaves 308 who could potentially cast some of their votes for him or Willy Nilly? I hope he will show some common sense and not stand but you just don't know with these Tories.
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| Teddy Eagle 21 Oct 22 7.22am |
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| Runningman Keston 21 Oct 22 7.37am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That's what happens when tactical voting is seen to be necessary to get the result you want. Remove the need for the tactical voting and a straightforward choice gets made. For good governance it is essential that the MPs choose who leads them. They have to have confidence in them, if it gets lost then the PM loses their job. The idea that the membership has a role is ludicrous.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 21 Oct 22 8.25am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
The figures I have received this morning in terms of nominations : Boris Johnson 51 Some members I have spoken to are firmly in the Boris Johnson camp.
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| Teddy Eagle 21 Oct 22 8.33am |
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Originally posted by Willo
The figures I have received this morning in terms of nominations : Boris Johnson 51 Some members I have spoken to are firmly in the Boris Johnson camp.
Does this surprise you Willo or do you think it was always a plan?
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