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Stirlingsays 17 Nov 22 7.22pm
Originally posted by croydon proud I mean- we could have the hol as just a right wing CONservative site, with no opposing views, where you could all forelock tap and get off on how well the country is being run- but wheres the fun in that?If a rant is criticism of the CONS, then its justified, unless you agree with how the CONS are doing- but tough shyte! I think the irritation is that you don't ever seem to do anything else other than whine about how much of a victim you are or rant in poor English about CON this or CON that. Bump or chump? Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Nov 2022 7.25pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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17 Nov 22 7.22pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

I mean- we could have the hol as just a right wing CONservative site, with no opposing views, where you could all forelock tap and get off on how well the country is being run- but wheres the fun in that?If a rant is criticism of the CONS, then its justified, unless you agree with how the CONS are doing- but tough shyte!

I think the irritation is that you don't ever seem to do anything else other than whine about how much of a victim you are or rant in poor English about CON this or CON that.

Bump or chump?

Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Nov 2022 7.25pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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steeleye20 Croydon 17 Nov 22 7.51pm
Bank of England attacks government’s economic failure ahead of ‘austerity budget’. No growth or investment today and in 5 years the national debt will have increased. All pain and no gain, whether the 'black hole' even existed is highly debatable. The ability of the British voter to be 'had' continues unabated.
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Croydon 17 Nov 22 7.51pm

Bank of England attacks government’s economic failure ahead of ‘austerity budget’.

No growth or investment today and in 5 years the national debt will have increased.

All pain and no gain, whether the 'black hole' even existed is highly debatable.

The ability of the British voter to be 'had' continues unabated.

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Stirlingsays 17 Nov 22 8.29pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Bank of England attacks government’s economic failure ahead of ‘austerity budget’. No growth or investment today and in 5 years the national debt will have increased. All pain and no gain, whether the 'black hole' even existed is highly debatable. The ability of the British voter to be 'had' continues unabated. It's not going to be a funfare ride that's for sure. Maybe it'll be kind of like going back to the seventies....except with crap music. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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17 Nov 22 8.29pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Bank of England attacks government’s economic failure ahead of ‘austerity budget’.

No growth or investment today and in 5 years the national debt will have increased.

All pain and no gain, whether the 'black hole' even existed is highly debatable.

The ability of the British voter to be 'had' continues unabated.

It's not going to be a funfare ride that's for sure.

Maybe it'll be kind of like going back to the seventies....except with crap music.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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steeleye20 Croydon 17 Nov 22 9.03pm
'Pound tumbles amid market fears for UK economy and impact of austerity budget'. Well, well.
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Croydon 17 Nov 22 9.03pm

'Pound tumbles amid market fears for UK economy and impact of austerity budget'.

Well, well.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Nov 22 9.04pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Well, I'll rate your conclusion along with the rest of your predictions since you joined this site. Hang on, let's check in on a couple. Let's see what Mitt Romney's doing?.....Nope, still not Republican leader...strange, I'm sure I remember someone predicting that. How about Trump being in jail over Russiagate?....I'll have another look....Oh no, just given a speech in front of a packed crowd....strange, no handcuffs on him. Mmmmm. . Something tells me that if you did gamble, that the bookies would quite enjoy your visits. Did I predict Romney as the leader, or simply express a preference? It’s a long time ago and, as I frequently have said, nothing stays cast in stone. Events change things. Again I have frequently said that we need to be patient over Trump. He uses every possible delaying tactic known to man to avoid being held accountable. It’s been suggested that his new run may really be to stymie legal proceedings, although I don’t see how myself. The net will close on him eventually though. Even if it takes an Al Capone move to skewer him. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 17 Nov 22 9.04pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Well, I'll rate your conclusion along with the rest of your predictions since you joined this site.

Hang on, let's check in on a couple. Let's see what Mitt Romney's doing?.....Nope, still not Republican leader...strange, I'm sure I remember someone predicting that.

How about Trump being in jail over Russiagate?....I'll have another look....Oh no, just given a speech in front of a packed crowd....strange, no handcuffs on him.

Mmmmm.
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Something tells me that if you did gamble, that the bookies would quite enjoy your visits.

Did I predict Romney as the leader, or simply express a preference? It’s a long time ago and, as I frequently have said, nothing stays cast in stone. Events change things.

Again I have frequently said that we need to be patient over Trump. He uses every possible delaying tactic known to man to avoid being held accountable. It’s been suggested that his new run may really be to stymie legal proceedings, although I don’t see how myself.

The net will close on him eventually though. Even if it takes an Al Capone move to skewer him.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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MrWhyNot 17 Nov 22 9.05pm
Originally posted by Spiderman Sounds like the exact opposite of the bbs. You think ME was rude, read the political section on there. You can criticise all you like, but you were getting ranty and p***k is far worse than an idiot Banned now. I'm a world away from his politics but it clearly doesn't take much to get the axe now does it.
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17 Nov 22 9.05pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Sounds like the exact opposite of the bbs. You think ME was rude, read the political section on there.
You can criticise all you like, but you were getting ranty and p***k is far worse than an idiot

Banned now. I'm a world away from his politics but it clearly doesn't take much to get the axe now does it.

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HKOwen Hong Kong 17 Nov 22 9.45pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 'Pound tumbles amid market fears for UK economy and impact of austerity budget'. Well, well. The Pound has moved within a 1% range vs USD past 24 hours Is that a tumble? Have another 87 beers Edited by HKOwen (17 Nov 2022 11.04pm) Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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HKOwen

Hong Kong 17 Nov 22 9.45pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

'Pound tumbles amid market fears for UK economy and impact of austerity budget'.

Well, well.

The Pound has moved within a 1% range vs USD past 24 hours

Is that a tumble?

Have another 87 beers

Edited by HKOwen (17 Nov 2022 11.04pm)

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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HKOwen Hong Kong 17 Nov 22 10.39pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Labour don't seem to have much in the way of credible finance policies but one must admit they are rather good at sound bites. It was fairly obvious that Ranting Rachel's speech was written before she knew what was in the budget as it was pretty heavy on sound bites but very light on alternative policy ideas. This is a good summary. The next few years will be difficult everywhere including the UK. For me a simple action would be to cancel HS2 now before we throw even more money at it. Look at improving local bus services in the North and Midlands first. Now is not the time to continue an out of control white elephant. The amount spent on HS2 to date is roughly the same as ONE YEAR of housing the " asylum seekers " and " victims of trafficking " Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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HKOwen

Hong Kong 17 Nov 22 10.39pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Labour don't seem to have much in the way of credible finance policies but one must admit they are rather good at sound bites.

It was fairly obvious that Ranting Rachel's speech was written before she knew what was in the budget as it was pretty heavy on sound bites but very light on alternative policy ideas.

This is a good summary.

The next few years will be difficult everywhere including the UK.

For me a simple action would be to cancel HS2 now before we throw even more money at it. Look at improving local bus services in the North and Midlands first.

Now is not the time to continue an out of control white elephant.

The amount spent on HS2 to date is roughly the same as ONE YEAR of housing the " asylum seekers " and " victims of trafficking "

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Mapletree Croydon 17 Nov 22 10.48pm
Originally posted by MrWhyNot Banned now. I'm a world away from his politics but it clearly doesn't take much to get the axe now does it. That’s a shame. I always thought he was surprisingly polite and forbearing. And so the old place returns to being an echo chamber for a while, having finally succeeded in tissue rejection of an independent voice. Yet again.
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Croydon 17 Nov 22 10.48pm

Originally posted by MrWhyNot

Banned now. I'm a world away from his politics but it clearly doesn't take much to get the axe now does it.

That’s a shame. I always thought he was surprisingly polite and forbearing. And so the old place returns to being an echo chamber for a while, having finally succeeded in tissue rejection of an independent voice. Yet again.

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Spiderman Horsham 18 Nov 22 8.12am
Originally posted by Mapletree That’s a shame. I always thought he was surprisingly polite and forbearing. And so the old place returns to being an echo chamber for a while, having finally succeeded in tissue rejection of an independent voice. Yet again. I never wanted CP to be banned and my last few posts to him were, trying to get him to calm down a bit. Can’t agree with your analysis, as CP was getting rude to people and he was hardly an independent voice! I did get irritated with his stance on certain issues, especially the migrant crisis, which I have first hand knowledge of but at least he was consistent. In a strange way I will miss him but presumably there is adequate grounds for a ban
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Horsham 18 Nov 22 8.12am

Originally posted by Mapletree

I never wanted CP to be banned and my last few posts to him were, trying to get him to calm down a bit. Can’t agree with your analysis, as CP was getting rude to people and he was hardly an independent voice! I did get irritated with his stance on certain issues, especially the migrant crisis, which I have first hand knowledge of but at least he was consistent.
In a strange way I will miss him but presumably there is adequate grounds for a ban

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silvertop Portishead 18 Nov 22 8.16am
Originally posted by Jacey If many feel times are tough,just wait to see the mess we will be in when ' fiscally' prudent Starmer and his dreary team of shouty Rachel,Milliband,Cooper,and Ashworth take over in just over two years. You have been warned,as in their pea brain mentality,they seem unable to see the global picture. As said elsewhere such certainty is out of date. Sure they will bugger it up. However the sooner the Tories dump right wing populism for pragmatic centrist policies the sooner they recover their reputation for safe economic hands. An unforeseen consequence of Brexit.
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Portishead 18 Nov 22 8.16am

Originally posted by Jacey

If many feel times are tough,just wait to see the mess we will be in when ' fiscally' prudent Starmer and his dreary team of shouty Rachel,Milliband,Cooper,and Ashworth take over in just over two years.
You have been warned,as in their pea brain mentality,they seem unable to see the global picture.

As said elsewhere such certainty is out of date. Sure they will bugger it up. However the sooner the Tories dump right wing populism for pragmatic centrist policies the sooner they recover their reputation for safe economic hands.

An unforeseen consequence of Brexit.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Nov 22 8.28am
Originally posted by silvertop As said elsewhere such certainty is out of date. Sure they will bugger it up. However the sooner the Tories dump right wing populism for pragmatic centrist policies the sooner they recover their reputation for safe economic hands. An unforeseen consequence of Brexit. Agreed. Excepting that it was foreseen. That the populist driven Brexit of the right wing of the Tories would ultimately ruin their reputation was always on the cards. The pandemic and the Ukraine war has just advanced it's arrival. No UK political party can hope to remain in power for long unless they occupy the centre and adopt a flexible pragmatic approach. That this disappoints ideologues from both the left and the right doesn't make it any less true than it's ever been. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 18 Nov 22 8.28am

Originally posted by silvertop

An unforeseen consequence of Brexit.

Agreed. Excepting that it was foreseen. That the populist driven Brexit of the right wing of the Tories would ultimately ruin their reputation was always on the cards. The pandemic and the Ukraine war has just advanced it's arrival.

No UK political party can hope to remain in power for long unless they occupy the centre and adopt a flexible pragmatic approach. That this disappoints ideologues from both the left and the right doesn't make it any less true than it's ever been.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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