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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 08 Apr 24 3.14pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

We haven't - that's largely been the problem.

Is this the long running myth that the issue was not the policy but the implementation?

The problem was partly that the executive you voted in were the lowest hanging fruit. They got rid of anyone with any genuine talent. What was left was either thick gammons from the right, or even less nice but not quite as thick from the centre who disingenuously tied themselves to the Brexit star with no true conviction.

I suspect it was also partly due to the fact that the Treasury sat the new cabinet down on day one and explained to them in monosyllables that if they actually apply Brexit we will be a developing nation within a decade.

So, they have tried to muddle through with such low competence that they make Labour look like prudent stewards of the public purse. That is the first time that has happened in my lifetime and probably since the age of Keir Hardie. That is one impressive achievement.

 

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Originally posted by silvertop

Is this the long running myth that the issue was not the policy but the implementation?

The problem was partly that the executive you voted in were the lowest hanging fruit. They got rid of anyone with any genuine talent. What was left was either thick gammons from the right, or even less nice but not quite as thick from the centre who disingenuously tied themselves to the Brexit star with no true conviction.

I suspect it was also partly due to the fact that the Treasury sat the new cabinet down on day one and explained to them in monosyllables that if they actually apply Brexit we will be a developing nation within a decade.

So, they have tried to muddle through with such low competence that they make Labour look like prudent stewards of the public purse. That is the first time that has happened in my lifetime and probably since the age of Keir Hardie. That is one impressive achievement.

I don't agree with anything you have said in this post apart from the government being incompetent - all governments are.

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 08 Apr 24 3.29pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

I don't agree with anything you have said in this post apart from the government being incompetent - all governments are.

Not surprised you don't agree.

And I don't agree that all governments are incompetent. That is the stuff of right wing web sites, casual pub chat, or lefty student debate. There is a spectrum of competence. A government is either more to one side or more to the other. Shades of grey.

 

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Originally posted by silvertop

Not surprised you don't agree.

And I don't agree that all governments are incompetent. That is the stuff of right wing web sites, casual pub chat, or lefty student debate. There is a spectrum of competence. A government is either more to one side or more to the other. Shades of grey.

You can dismiss opinions that you disagree with with casual slurs as much as you like. We are overgoverned and overtaxed, a huge percentage of the taxes we pay are squandered, much of government organisation is inefficient and incompetent. We should abolish all regional assemblies, the absurd police commissioners, metropolitan mayors and the House of Lords.

 

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Originally posted by georgenorman

You can dismiss opinions that you disagree with with casual slurs as much as you like. We are overgoverned and overtaxed, a huge percentage of the taxes we pay are squandered, much of government organisation is inefficient and incompetent. We should abolish all regional assemblies, the absurd police commissioners, metropolitan mayors and the House of Lords.

Sorry, I didn't realise I had.

There can be scope for improving every government, but that just means you want to slide it along the scale in your preferred direction. It does not make it 100% bad. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you are not an anarchist.

 

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Originally posted by silvertop

Sorry, I didn't realise I had.

There can be scope for improving every government, but that just means you want to slide it along the scale in your preferred direction. It does not make it 100% bad. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you are not an anarchist.

No I'm not. Of course government is necessary, a necessary evil perhaps. I just want to scale it back as much as we can.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 10 Apr 24 6.15pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

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I had been thinking of buying a pair but this has put me off.

 


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Originally posted by ASCPFC

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I had been thinking of buying a pair but this has put me off.

People should wear proper shoes, especially Prime Ministers when being interviewed, along with a suit and tie.

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 10 Apr 24 9.15pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

People should wear proper shoes, especially Prime Ministers when being interviewed, along with a suit and tie.


Prime Minsters who are serious about being re-elected, I fully agree. But ones whose entire reason for being in the job is to ensure their party loses, and loses badly, the next election? Those dress like a complete knob-head because the last thing they want is anybody to think of them as being credible in the job.

There is simply NO other explanation left now.

There are people whose entire job is to make sure a PM looks the part for these interviews. Hours spent discussing what colour shirt. None of this happens by chance.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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Zero Seats. The Tories need wiping out.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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