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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 30 Nov 21 8.38pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I deliberately didn't comment on its accuracy, although I could very well have on the spin applied.

I was commenting on the source chosen, when there are so many much more trustworthy ones available.

If you use such sources, it calls into question the reliability of anything you post.

What a joke.

You have the gall to cast doubt on the sites others use when you just use leftist mouthpieces.

What matters is that you chose to cast doubt on a factual event.

Hypocrites gotta hypocrite.

Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Nov 2021 8.41pm)

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 30 Nov 21 9.26pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

What a joke.

You have the gall to cast doubt on the sites others use when you just use leftist mouthpieces.

What matters is that you chose to cast doubt on a factual event.

Hypocrites gotta hypocrite.

Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Nov 2021 8.41pm)

If anyone actually reads what I wrote, then you will realise that's untrue. I cast no doubt on the event. Only on the source chosen.

I use NO leftist mouthpieces! I use regular, objective regular media sources which are properly edited and checked by lawyers.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 30 Nov 21 10.19pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

If anyone actually reads what I wrote, then you will realise that's untrue. I cast no doubt on the event. Only on the source chosen.

I use NO leftist mouthpieces! I use regular, objective regular media sources which are properly edited and checked by lawyers.

What's the point of that?

Who gives a damn about the sodding source? What matters is whether the point made is true or not

The source wasn't the point at all, the case was and what happened in it.

The fact of the court case was that it was a self defence case for a black guy who shot attackers and who was released the same day as Rittenhouse...the point was made in opposition to Steely's claim about 'white supremacy in the courts'.

As ever, you make typical waste of time points just trying to deflect whenever a point you don't like is made.

As for objective sites. Rubbish, you use leftist sites, and as for lawyers....? Most sites concerning commentary on news, whether they are left and right use lawyers...what an utterly redundant point. Besides in the American system claims can just be opinion anyway......again, another typical deflection point.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 30 Nov 21 10.47pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

What's the point of that?

Who gives a damn about the sodding source? What matters is whether the point made is true or not

The source wasn't the point at all, the case was and what happened in it.

The fact of the court case was that it was a self defence case for a black guy who shot attackers and who was released the same day as Rittenhouse...the point was made in opposition to Steely's claim about 'white supremacy in the courts'.

As ever, you make typical waste of time points just trying to deflect whenever a point you don't like is made.

As for objective sites. Rubbish, you use leftist sites, and as for lawyers....? Most sites concerning commentary on news, whether they are left and right use lawyers...what an utterly redundant point. Besides in the American system claims can just be opinion anyway......again, another typical deflection point.

To repeat, the point had nothing to do with the article itself. It was just a general observation which I thought germane to the posts from a frequent contributor, which gave an insight into their likely veracity.

That you disagree so angrily rather supports the point being made.

The article itself was accurate, but spun the facts to pour scorn on others. Rittenhouse was found not guilty by reason of the way the law is applied in that jurisdiction. The other case was actually very different. He would have succeeded with a self-defence plea everywhere.

The point being made was not whether "black" men don't ever succeed with a self defence plea. It was whether Rittenhouse would have done if HE was "black", in his circumstances.

The deflection comes from those seeking to conflate two quite different things.

That some see the regular media as "leftish" says so much more about them than it does about me. As I have said many times, only those on the extremes of politics view those in the middle as either left or right.

Places like Infowars don't use lawyers. No lawyer would ever allow blatant lies to be published. I very much doubt others do either, because they know, as is admitted, they can get away with it.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 02 Dec 21 8.21am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

BBC presenter upset over diners loud offensive comments (not directed at her).

We've all been there having a nice quiet meal and there's a loud mouth idiot at the next table. So what do you do? (normally they tell me to shut up).

- Ignore him and focus on your dinner group
- Politely tell him that he is disturbing other people and to tone it down.
- Have at it and call him out as an out and out racist and tell him his views are offensive.
- Call the waiter and ask him to remove the diner for his racist and boorish behaviour.

Well apparently our Tina did none of these all though it seems she certainly had a case. No she opted for this solution:

- Say nothing at the time and wait weeks then write a letter of complaint to the restaurant and post it on social media and then share your pain with the world on television.

Seriously what does she expect the restaurant to do now? (It's all about me, me it's all about me).

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Edited by Badger11 (02 Dec 2021 8.22am)

 


One more point

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 02 Dec 21 3.38pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

BBC presenter upset over diners loud offensive comments (not directed at her).

We've all been there having a nice quiet meal and there's a loud mouth idiot at the next table. So what do you do? (normally they tell me to shut up).

- Ignore him and focus on your dinner group
- Politely tell him that he is disturbing other people and to tone it down.
- Have at it and call him out as an out and out racist and tell him his views are offensive.
- Call the waiter and ask him to remove the diner for his racist and boorish behaviour.

Well apparently our Tina did none of these all though it seems she certainly had a case. No she opted for this solution:

- Say nothing at the time and wait weeks then write a letter of complaint to the restaurant and post it on social media and then share your pain with the world on television.

Seriously what does she expect the restaurant to do now? (It's all about me, me it's all about me).

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Edited by Badger11 (02 Dec 2021 8.22am)

Nothing is the answer to that, but I don't think it's all about her. She is making a wider point and using her own experience to highlight it. If it contributes to the debate about what is acceptable and what not, then all to the good.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 02 Dec 21 3.59pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Nothing is the answer to that, but I don't think it's all about her. She is making a wider point and using her own experience to highlight it. If it contributes to the debate about what is acceptable and what not, then all to the good.

If she related the story and said she regretted doing nothing at the time I agree. We have all been in situations where we regret not speaking up. No I was pointing out the letter to the restaurant and posting it on social media it's too late for that.

 


One more point

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 02 Dec 21 4.20pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

BBC presenter upset .....


Edited by Badger11 (02 Dec 2021 8.22am)

say no more. Permanently upset, triggered, righteous indignation, offended......

say no f...king more

 


Pay for a BBC TV license ? yeah, right.

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 02 Dec 21 5.01pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

If she related the story and said she regretted doing nothing at the time I agree. We have all been in situations where we regret not speaking up. No I was pointing out the letter to the restaurant and posting it on social media it's too late for that.

Maybe you are reading too much into this. She is a journalist and was probably just using the letter as a vehicle to tell the story in a way that people would bother to read. I don't think it was really intended as a complaint to the restaurant.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 02 Dec 21 5.11pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

say no more. Permanently upset, triggered, righteous indignation, offended......

say no f...king more

 


One more point

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 02 Dec 21 5.30pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

say no more. Permanently upset, triggered, righteous indignation, offended......

say no f...king more

How does anyone keep up with this nonsense?

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 02 Dec 21 7.03pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

How does anyone keep up with this nonsense?

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Why do you need to?

It's for students! They've always been a bit weird and will grow out of it.

 

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