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This post has been merged from a topic called 'What's going wrong ' by becky

Originally posted by rikz

We are a midtable Premier league club, you win some, you draw and lose more, seems pretty normal to me.

Exactly right. Everyone always tries to explain stuff that happens, but in a low-scoring game, results are decided by luck far more often than people accept. It’s all very Palace. We miss McArthur but we just haven’t had the luck recently. There’s no reason begging to be revealed.

 

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View orpingtoneagle's Profile orpingtoneagle Flag Orpington 06 Dec 21 9.15pm Send a Private Message to orpingtoneagle Add orpingtoneagle as a friend

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Nothing.

We are a bang average side. We win some and lose some more. We are not getting thrashed so I would dare to suggest we are actually getting better.

 

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View FairweatherEagle's Profile FairweatherEagle Flag London 06 Dec 21 9.17pm Send a Private Message to FairweatherEagle Add FairweatherEagle as a friend

I do think Macca makes a difference, as well as Andersen with his passing out from the back which is almost Sakho-like. However I would like to see Vieira try and adapt the system a bit more while Macca is out.

Now we know Schlupp isn't really like Macca (as well as Luka) surely he can change things a bit so we aren't so dependent on two extremely busy centre mids running around pressing everyone. Plenty of decent midfields in this league don't have that and get by just fine.

 

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This post has been merged from a topic called 'What's going wrong ' by becky

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

There's little doubt that Jimmy Mac has been mighty for us this season, and Anderson to a lesser extent. But their recent absence is not the only cause of our failure to gain more points.

Fact is our front runners ie Ayew and Benteke are not up to standard in front of goal. They have both missed easy chances and cost us points.

Also, I regret to say, as much as I think he has huge potential, Guehi has cost us points too. Some reckless play from him.

In a nutshell, I don't think our recent 'drop in form' is just down to 2 players.


We were getting results with Benteke and Ayew in the side. It’s more to do with us not getting numbers into the box anymore. Benteke was getting numerous chances and sciatic few of them. Now we get one chance and if it doesn’t go in we lose. We need to go back to playing the pressing and passing game again. A lot of that is down to Andersen mainly and Macca being injured.

 

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This post has been merged from a topic called 'What's going wrong ' by becky

Originally posted by rikz

We are a midtable Premier league club, you win some, you draw and lose more, seems pretty normal to me.

Is the correct answer, all this crap about this player missing and that plyer blah blah is just total crap, we lost by the odd goal in three games and games where we had chances the draw them all, nothing to worry about as far as I'm concerned

 

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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 06 Dec 21 10.13pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

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Bad selections and bad tactics, PV is still learning his trade too, but i think he will get better with time

Is the wrong answer.

 

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View sprites's Profile sprites Flag Auckland 06 Dec 21 10.51pm Send a Private Message to sprites Add sprites as a friend

Originally posted by Tickled pink

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Is the correct answer, all this crap about this player missing and that plyer blah blah is just total crap, we lost by the odd goal in three games and games where we had chances the draw them all, nothing to worry about as far as I'm concerned

While you're right to suggest there's nothing to overly worry about, you're wrong to suggest that missing players is total crap. Macca and Andersen's absence undoubtedly have an impact. As it would for any team losing two of their best.

 

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View Qwijibo's Profile Qwijibo Flag Bournemouth 06 Dec 21 10.59pm Send a Private Message to Qwijibo Add Qwijibo as a friend

Don't think anything has 'gone wrong'. It's just a long season.

We are a mid-table team. If you're in the middle of the league, you're inconsistent. Sometimes a mid-table team looks good, and other times they look weak, depending on their form and the form of their opponents.

I do think we seem to have lost some energy. The pressing isn't quite with the same intensity as it was a month ago. MacArthur's absent, and Gallagher has gone from looking super-human to a mere excellent footballer. Also Olise has lost his knack of turning up for ten minutes and finding an assist.

A lot has been made of our defensive frailties, especially at set-pieces. But we were good against Man Utd. They've improved and they really had to work hard to beat us. Both sides can take positives from the game.

We'd have beaten Burnley defending like that.

 

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View viveasheagle's Profile viveasheagle Flag perth 07 Dec 21 1.31am Send a Private Message to viveasheagle Add viveasheagle as a friend

Injuries and teams working us out. One of the things not mentioned is the Macca injury has now resulted in Gallagher playing in a deeper role. The deeper role does not play to his strengths which is getting forward to help support the forwards where as the moment they are having to do it on their own.
I would like to see Olise play more central with Ayew on the right as i think he has the ability to pick a pass where as Check, Schlupp and Gallagher ( in the deeper role ) don't.
It is not all doom and gloom. Defensively ( we had a lot of corners against us against Man U ) we are looking good with this formation and by all accounts Macca and Anderson are back in training.

 

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View thai-eagle's Profile thai-eagle Flag chiang mai 07 Dec 21 1.53am Send a Private Message to thai-eagle Add thai-eagle as a friend

Misses from our front men are costing us! Wonder how long Ayew and Tekkers will be 1st team starters?
Tomkins was a bit rusty in his first full game, at Old Trafford he was very good. Probably a better defender than Andersen, but not with the same range of passing.

 

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View FairweatherEagle's Profile FairweatherEagle Flag London 07 Dec 21 2.11am Send a Private Message to FairweatherEagle Add FairweatherEagle as a friend

Originally posted by sprites

While you're right to suggest there's nothing to overly worry about, you're wrong to suggest that missing players is total crap. Macca and Andersen's absence undoubtedly have an impact. As it would for any team losing two of their best.

Absolutely, while the impact Macca being gone can be exaggerated, it's stupid to think Luka or Jairo or Jeff have stepped into that role seamlessly as if nothing's changed. No way anyone thinks Jeff was as good as Macca yesterday unless they are utterly clueless. Likewise Tomkins/Andersen does have an effect on our attacking play, even if the argument could be made Tomkins is better defensively.

 

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View iheartcpfc's Profile iheartcpfc Flag SE25 07 Dec 21 2.49am Send a Private Message to iheartcpfc Add iheartcpfc as a friend

Too conservative in starting lineups and how we approach games. Focusing on physicality in the middle meaning we can't hold onto the ball and have to rely on counters. Not pressing as intensely as we did. Playing certain players who run a lot but when they get into good positions nothing ever comes of it (cough Ayew cough)

Everton next is the perfect time to go back to our principles under Vieira and make them worry about what we'll do to them more than us being solid (but still losing)

 

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