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glaziermart Flag 17 Dec 21 2.42pm

I saw a comment somewhere on here from a fan suggesting it was a good thing that the Watford game was going to be postponed this weekend, because he thought we were knackered against the Saints on Wednesday night!!! Unbelievable!!! We have only played probably two or three mid-week games since the start of the season and over half our squad have remained behind when the three international breaks have occurred so far. The modern players are meant to be fitter than ever! their diets and nutrition are immaculate and have enough medical staff monitoring them daily. We got knocked out of the EFL Cup early doors, and are not in Europe. We also now play a 38 game season as opposed to the old 42 game seasons before 1995, plus FA Cup replays do not go on for ever until there is a result!! Most players either train for several hours during the week or play a match. Most of them would prefer to play. I'm sorry but it does not wash!!!

 

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View Lawrie's Profile Lawrie Online Flag Brooks Green (near Horsham) 17 Dec 21 2.54pm Send a Private Message to Lawrie Add Lawrie as a friend

I’m in total agreement with that.
I remember the outpouring of sympathy when Arsen Wenger winged that his poor little darlings had to play nearly every week of the season.
As you say, they’re fitter and healthier than they’ve ever been and ……..IT’S WHAT THEY’RE PAID A FORTUNE TO DO.

 

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View crystal-purley's Profile crystal-purley Flag Purley 17 Dec 21 3.12pm Send a Private Message to crystal-purley Add crystal-purley as a friend

Agreed but they are also up against teams that are equally full of fit players, the big difference is that we don't have the same in depth quality that other (not all) teams have meaning that we PROBABlY have more players that are putting in more pitch yards than other teams. Twas ever thus.

 


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View Dubai Eagle's Profile Dubai Eagle Flag 17 Dec 21 3.18pm Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

Professional footballers are fitter than ever before but its also true that the opponents turn up fitter than before & I believe that the game today is played at a higher intensity than ever before -

The demands on players, particularly those playing in the middle of the park today (against yester - year) are quite significant & even a small drop in performance against a fully fit / rested team would show.

I can see that Southampton had 1 full day more between their previous fixture than we did - I would consider that as being quite a contribution towards their rest / readiness for the game on Wed.


I would imagine that if any respectable sports scientist was on here he could come up with all sorts of measurements to support this - (at least I would hope so)

 

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View samprior's Profile samprior Flag Hamburg 17 Dec 21 3.23pm Send a Private Message to samprior Add samprior as a friend

Originally posted by Dubai Eagle

Professional footballers are fitter than ever before but its also true that the opponents turn up fitter than before & I believe that the game today is played at a higher intensity than ever before -

The demands on players, particularly those playing in the middle of the park today (against yester - year) are quite significant & even a small drop in performance against a fully fit / rested team would show.

I can see that Southampton had 1 full day more between their previous fixture than we did - I would consider that as being quite a contribution towards their rest / readiness for the game on Wed.


I would imagine that if any respectable sports scientist was on here he could come up with all sorts of measurements to support this - (at least I would hope so)

Exactly that. One day extra at this busy time of year would make a big difference... especially as we named an almost unchanged side.

 

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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 17 Dec 21 3.26pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Should thrash Spurs on Boxing Day then with a 11 day rest period !!

 


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View dg1937's Profile dg1937 Flag 17 Dec 21 4.23pm Send a Private Message to dg1937 Add dg1937 as a friend

Originally posted by samprior

Exactly that. One day extra at this busy time of year would make a big difference... especially as we named an almost unchanged side.

My son did sports science at Bath (a top Uni for that sort of thing) he said as we were walking to the game that he thought the Palace players would be 'running through treacle' and Southampton's extra day of recovery time would be a definite advantage.

I've been watching Palace since the 1960s and the game has changed out of all recognition since then in terms of the intensity of effort.

I also asked him about Zaha's loss of pace, his comments on that did not make for great hearing but belong on a different thread.

 

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View beak's Profile beak Flag croydon 17 Dec 21 4.25pm Send a Private Message to beak Add beak as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

Should thrash Spurs on Boxing Day then with a 11 day rest period !!

Yes! For the second time this season.

 

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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 17 Dec 21 4.28pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Probably the unexpected break will be helpful to the players, not so much for their fitness - as others have said, their regime is the best it can be for that - but to have time to get over all the little bruises and niggly strains that come with one game on top of another.

There's been a fair few of them taking, not just boots to the leg or ankle, but elbows to ribs and jaws, impact with the ground and so on, which must eventually build up over several games, even with all the modern healing treatments.

I still hate Saturday's with no footie though

 


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deleted 25 Flag 17 Dec 21 4.44pm

With these Covid postponed this is only going to become a more common occurrence

We have only a day break between Spurs and Norwich. We could change the front 3 from Zaha, Ayew, Benteke to Eze, Olise, Eduoard
I think we can safely say a midtable team like us that players do not readily except squad rotation ; whereas top teams with European involvement seem to do so

I think teams with senior players effected by Covid should fulfil the fixture and play youth players

Edited by Vincehair (17 Dec 2021 4.48pm)

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 17 Dec 21 7.31pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

Should thrash Spurs on Boxing Day then with a 11 day rest period !!

They could end up having a longer break than us. If indeed any games are played on Boxing Day


 

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View Davepalace707's Profile Davepalace707 Flag Northumberland 17 Dec 21 8.58pm Send a Private Message to Davepalace707 Add Davepalace707 as a friend

A problem could be if fixtures are put back and rescheduled during the Africa Cup of Nations which runs from 9th Jan for up to four weeks. Although good luck organising that tournament in the current covid climate.

 

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