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Stirlingsays 27 Jan 22 6.41pm
Originally posted by silvertop Firstly why is starmer a snake- beyond all other politicians? And I disagree. Labour are only doing well as they are the anti tory. That only gets you so far I tend to agree......Though that approach worked for Biden. Most people aren't political and the their views tend to be shaped by media reactions....because the conformity urge is always very strong. Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Jan 2022 6.43pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

27 Jan 22 6.41pm

Originally posted by silvertop

Firstly why is starmer a snake- beyond all other politicians?

And I disagree. Labour are only doing well as they are the anti tory. That only gets you so far

I tend to agree......Though that approach worked for Biden.

Most people aren't political and the their views tend to be shaped by media reactions....because the conformity urge is always very strong.

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Jan 2022 6.43pm)

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cryrst The garden of England 27 Jan 22 6.51pm
I'm voting tory ..... Been under the left and not really where I want to be again. Wait for the dosh grab from everyone but the takers. Look to the USA for proof of that.
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cryrst

The garden of England 27 Jan 22 6.51pm

I'm voting tory .....
Been under the left and not really where I want to be again.
Wait for the dosh grab from everyone but the takers.
Look to the USA for proof of that.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 27 Jan 22 7.11pm
Originally posted by Matov I disagree. Suspect that people who like to pull the strings behind the curtains might actually see Starmer as a far more 'conservative' prospect than Johnson who has proven to be a genuine buffoon. A Labour party that expells somebody like Corbyn, who led it to over 40% of the vote in 2017, and is led by a snake like Starmer (and a Knight of the Realm to boot), is probably a safer prospect for the globalists then the Tories. Everybody says Labour are dead and buried but the polls don't show that at all and the anger against Johnson and co is real. That will take a long while to die down and come 2024, perhaps it might be all up for grabs. Starmer probably just needs to let Johnson hang himself rather than actively campaign on anything. Keep on battering the Lefties and start to make patriotic noises and he may well make number 10 yet. The only fly in the ointment might be if Corbyn decides to lead a grass-roots 'Socialist' party. Interesting to see Laura Pidock resign yesterday as well because prior to 2019 she was being touted as the new golden girl of the Left. Lets see. Personally, I would love Corbyn to come out fighting and set up a new party. Would make British politics all the more interesting. I would love to see the establishment of new parties which truly reflected the political views of their members, without forcing them to pretend to support views they fundamentally disagree with. Any party led by Corbyn would gain some support, but unless we switch to PR they wouldn't get too much representation. Exactly the same applies to the right of the Tory party. They, or the moderates, can split off anytime they like. The big winner if this were to happen would be in the centre, whether coalescing around the Lib Dems is an open question. As someone who wants to see UK politics return to the centre, with only mild fluctuations from right to left, a return to respect, co-operation and decency I really hope this is our future. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 27 Jan 22 7.11pm

Originally posted by Matov

I disagree. Suspect that people who like to pull the strings behind the curtains might actually see Starmer as a far more 'conservative' prospect than Johnson who has proven to be a genuine buffoon. A Labour party that expells somebody like Corbyn, who led it to over 40% of the vote in 2017, and is led by a snake like Starmer (and a Knight of the Realm to boot), is probably a safer prospect for the globalists then the Tories.

Everybody says Labour are dead and buried but the polls don't show that at all and the anger against Johnson and co is real. That will take a long while to die down and come 2024, perhaps it might be all up for grabs.

Starmer probably just needs to let Johnson hang himself rather than actively campaign on anything. Keep on battering the Lefties and start to make patriotic noises and he may well make number 10 yet.

The only fly in the ointment might be if Corbyn decides to lead a grass-roots 'Socialist' party. Interesting to see Laura Pidock resign yesterday as well because prior to 2019 she was being touted as the new golden girl of the Left.

Lets see. Personally, I would love Corbyn to come out fighting and set up a new party. Would make British politics all the more interesting.

I would love to see the establishment of new parties which truly reflected the political views of their members, without forcing them to pretend to support views they fundamentally disagree with. Any party led by Corbyn would gain some support, but unless we switch to PR they wouldn't get too much representation.

Exactly the same applies to the right of the Tory party. They, or the moderates, can split off anytime they like. The big winner if this were to happen would be in the centre, whether coalescing around the Lib Dems is an open question.

As someone who wants to see UK politics return to the centre, with only mild fluctuations from right to left, a return to respect, co-operation and decency I really hope this is our future.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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steeleye20 Croydon 27 Jan 22 9.09pm
Liz Truss flies a private jet to the other side of the world. You see they don't have the internet or telephones in Oz, they just drink until they pass out mostly. All the way to advise them, fresh from her Afghan doggie airlift, that the Ukraine conflict could result in China invading Taiwan. Predictably she was rubbished in the Oz press 'strewth' etc. 'relevance deprivation' an excellent phrase. Miss Truss, China will invade Taiwan when it feels like it, to them it is the equivalent of our Isle if Wight.
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Croydon 27 Jan 22 9.09pm

Liz Truss flies a private jet to the other side of the world.

You see they don't have the internet or telephones in Oz, they just drink until they pass out mostly.

All the way to advise them, fresh from her Afghan doggie airlift, that the Ukraine conflict could result in China invading Taiwan.

Predictably she was rubbished in the Oz press 'strewth' etc. 'relevance deprivation' an excellent phrase.

Miss Truss, China will invade Taiwan when it feels like it, to them it is the equivalent of our Isle if Wight.

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 27 Jan 22 9.27pm
Originally posted by cryrst I'm voting tory ..... Been under the left and not really where I want to be again. Wait for the dosh grab from everyone but the takers. Look to the USA for proof of that. Dosh grab? What dosh? Bungle and his CON cronies have bankrupt the country-and filled their boots, you couldn"t make it up!
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Any european country i fancy! 27 Jan 22 9.27pm

Originally posted by cryrst

I'm voting tory .....
Been under the left and not really where I want to be again.
Wait for the dosh grab from everyone but the takers.
Look to the USA for proof of that.

Dosh grab? What dosh? Bungle and his CON cronies have bankrupt the country-and filled their boots, you couldn"t make it up!

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 27 Jan 22 9.29pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Liz Truss flies a private jet to the other side of the world. You see they don't have the internet or telephones in Oz, they just drink until they pass out mostly. All the way to advise them, fresh from her Afghan doggie airlift, that the Ukraine conflict could result in China invading Taiwan. Predictably she was rubbished in the Oz press 'strewth' etc. 'relevance deprivation' an excellent phrase. Miss Truss, China will invade Taiwan when it feels like it, to them it is the equivalent of our Isle if Wight. It was only �500,000 -and their were 14 of them, sure, they could have flown economy-she stated that last year, but why would they when they got bungle held to ransom-he"s hardly gona complain.
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croydon proud

Any european country i fancy! 27 Jan 22 9.29pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Liz Truss flies a private jet to the other side of the world.

You see they don't have the internet or telephones in Oz, they just drink until they pass out mostly.

All the way to advise them, fresh from her Afghan doggie airlift, that the Ukraine conflict could result in China invading Taiwan.

Predictably she was rubbished in the Oz press 'strewth' etc. 'relevance deprivation' an excellent phrase.

Miss Truss, China will invade Taiwan when it feels like it, to them it is the equivalent of our Isle if Wight.

It was only �500,000 -and their were 14 of them, sure, they could have flown economy-she stated that last year, but why would they when they got bungle held to ransom-he"s hardly gona complain.

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Matov 27 Jan 22 10.33pm
Originally posted by silvertop Firstly why is starmer a snake- beyond all other politicians? Starmer led the charge for the change of policy on Brexit from 2017 which effectively guaranteed Labour would lose any general election fought on it. The electoral mathematics of the Brexit vote in 2016 showed that clearly. There never was an electoral majority in our first past the post system for any kind of second referendum. Meaning that Starmer was either very, very stupid. Or very, very underhand. No other option on the table. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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27 Jan 22 10.33pm

Originally posted by silvertop

Firstly why is starmer a snake- beyond all other politicians?

Starmer led the charge for the change of policy on Brexit from 2017 which effectively guaranteed Labour would lose any general election fought on it.

The electoral mathematics of the Brexit vote in 2016 showed that clearly. There never was an electoral majority in our first past the post system for any kind of second referendum.

Meaning that Starmer was either very, very stupid. Or very, very underhand. No other option on the table.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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The Dolphin 28 Jan 22 6.48am
Apparently a high profile Labour MP - shadow Minister - said yesterday that if Labour get in that they would look to see if it was worth reversing Brexit. Good policy that - buffoons!
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28 Jan 22 6.48am

Apparently a high profile Labour MP - shadow Minister - said yesterday that if Labour get in that they would look to see if it was worth reversing Brexit.
Good policy that - buffoons!

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cryrst The garden of England 28 Jan 22 7.47am
Originally posted by croydon proud Dosh grab? What dosh? Bungle and his CON cronies have bankrupt the country-and filled their boots, you couldn"t make it up! From you and me. Other people's money!
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cryrst

The garden of England 28 Jan 22 7.47am

Originally posted by croydon proud

Dosh grab? What dosh? Bungle and his CON cronies have bankrupt the country-and filled their boots, you couldn"t make it up!

From you and me. Other people's money!

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BlueJay UK 28 Jan 22 1.12pm
Well I mean I must say, it's monumentally dirty, but Boris is certainly doing his best to buy time. Clogging up with works for a few weeks could feasibly save his skin.
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BlueJay

UK 28 Jan 22 1.12pm

Well I mean I must say, it's monumentally dirty, but Boris is certainly doing his best to buy time. Clogging up with works for a few weeks could feasibly save his skin.

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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 28 Jan 22 1.36pm
Originally posted by cryrst From you and me. Other people's money! So stories like the �500k private jet on taxpayer money must really get your back up, right? Or the �37bn taxpayer money on track and trace?
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Originally posted by cryrst

From you and me. Other people's money!

So stories like the �500k private jet on taxpayer money must really get your back up, right?

Or the �37bn taxpayer money on track and trace?

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Grumbles 28 Jan 22 1.53pm
Originally posted by BlueJay Well I mean I must say, it's monumentally dirty, but Boris is certainly doing his best to buy time. Clogging up with works for a few weeks could feasibly save his skin. Looks like he has called a favour from Dick.
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Grumbles 28 Jan 22 1.53pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

Well I mean I must say, it's monumentally dirty, but Boris is certainly doing his best to buy time. Clogging up with works for a few weeks could feasibly save his skin.

Looks like he has called a favour from Dick.

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