Boris is toast.
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 silvertop  Portishead 31 Jan 22 2.34pm |
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We appear to have gone off topic. Meanwhile... This morning announced a brexit bill. No way has this been put out for any reason other than getting brexit done. Let's all love Boris again! Surely even the most ardent Brexiteer is not going to fall for this naked opportunistic populism?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 31 Jan 22 2.37pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
What, he didn't make you Lord Wisbelch? No, it was a promise openly made, and on record, immediately after the 2019 GE and before Brexit and Covid dominated the headlines. Those genuinely interested in the detail were invited to PM me, and did so.
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BlueJay  UK 31 Jan 22 2.41pm |
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Quote The cut-down version of Sue Gray's report will be "bad for democracy" but "inadvertently good" for Boris Johnson, according to one of his former colleagues.
Will Walden, who worked as Johnson's director of communications when he was Mayor of London, tells BBC Radio Four's The World At One the situation was "a mess". But, he says, the decision by the Met to investigate, delaying Gray's full report, had "landed pretty well" for the PM. Walden says: "He has the benefit of seeing a heavily redacted report and doesn't have long to respond, but he is responding to frankly what will be not a lot and I think that can only help him." Since the report has been gutted, Sue Gray has directly stated within it that 'it is not possible at present to provide a meaningful report'. Edited by BlueJay (31 Jan 2022 2.49pm)
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| Helmet46 Croydon 31 Jan 22 2.50pm |
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Sue Grays report. Blokes toast, surely?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 31 Jan 22 2.50pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
And look how he handled Afghanistan. He's weak and predictable....His attitude towards Putin has worsened global peace and China increase their threats towards Taiwan. Biden has been a disaster for the US and for the globe.....He was always a swamp lying brown nose politician and he isn't fit to clean swimming pools let alone lead the free world.....ha...as if the word 'free' is even appropriate around today's Democrats.
Biden inherited the withdrawal from Afghanistan. Which for sure was planned and executed by the military and not by any President. Biden just didn't back down under pressure to slow things. I assume because of a timetable agreed with the Taliban and the need to demonstrate good faith. This level of determination to heap blame at the door of Biden and the Democrats resonates with the kind of nonsense to be read on the worst kind of Trump supporting sites. Sites which are full to the brim of wild allegations and conspiracy theories. Biden is not best mates with Putin, that's for sure, but I would rather see that than the sycophantic relationship that Trump had. At least we can feel confident he won't over-rule his military commanders for his own, personal, reasons.
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| BlueJay UK 31 Jan 22 2.54pm |
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It's stripped of absolutely all information pertaining to the events it references and any knowledge of BJ's involvement in them. Due to the MET investigation that came about at the most convenient time possible. As has been said, not good for democracy or accountability, but probably enough to save Boris' skin.
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Nicholas91  The Democratic Republic of Kent 31 Jan 22 3.01pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Biden inherited the withdrawal from Afghanistan. Which for sure was planned and executed by the military and not by any President. Biden just didn't back down under pressure to slow things. I assume because of a timetable agreed with the Taliban and the need to demonstrate good faith. This level of determination to heap blame at the door of Biden and the Democrats resonates with the kind of nonsense to be read on the worst kind of Trump supporting sites. Sites which are full to the brim of wild allegations and conspiracy theories. Biden is not best mates with Putin, that's for sure, but I would rather see that than the sycophantic relationship that Trump had. At least we can feel confident he won't over-rule his military commanders for his own, personal, reasons. Is there a similar confidence in him to successfully chew his own food to prevent him from choking however, or remembering where he is, or who he is, for at least a majority of the time?
Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!! |
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 31 Jan 22 3.07pm |
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Her conclusion is pretty damning but Johnson is a slippery beast not given to apologising, so we can expect more of the "I am sorry people are upset" kind of thing, alongside the "long hours and stressful situation" excuses. It all depends on the Tory MPs. Will they force him out now, or give him some more rope?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 31 Jan 22 3.12pm |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
Is there a similar confidence in him to successfully chew his own food to prevent him from choking however, or remembering where he is, or who he is, for at least a majority of the time? Yes, because those are just silly slurs bandied about in social media by the right. Biden listens to advice. Trump only listens to himself.
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| The Dolphin 31 Jan 22 3.21pm |
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That report says that these things shouldn't have happened even allowing for the fact that No10 was a workplace and difficult to adapt for Covid regs and so on.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 31 Jan 22 3.27pm |
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Unusually concise and forthright from a civil servant. I didn't find it unmeaningful. He has also apologised to the Queen. Things are so bad now, one despairs really.
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| The Dolphin 31 Jan 22 3.37pm |
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PM says he accepts Sue Gray's findings He isn't going anywhere!
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