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  georgenorman  13 Jan 22 11.29am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I have studied the origins of Christianity and whilst I don't believe it tells a factual story it's undeniably true that it's moral compass is what has guided our development as a nation. Not being a believer allows for some wriggle room. So I would have fought in WW2. If you and yours are under threat then you defend yourself. What I would not have done is support judicial killing, even for war crimes. In the heat of battle, when it's kill or be killed, is different. You previously posted "Christians are commanded not to kill. To do so is morally indefensible in any circumstances."
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| OldFella London 13 Jan 22 11.39am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I have studied the origins of Christianity and whilst I don't believe it tells a factual story it's undeniably true that it's moral compass is what has guided our development as a nation. Not being a believer allows for some wriggle room. So I would have fought in WW2. If you and yours are under threat then you defend yourself. What I would not have done is support judicial killing, even for war crimes. In the heat of battle, when it's kill or be killed, is different. Sorry, I rather doubt that
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| Mapletree Croydon 13 Jan 22 11.49am |
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Originally posted by OldFella
Sorry, I rather doubt that Not pugnacious enough? Lacking determination? Too little energy? Little sense of right and wrong?
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 13 Jan 22 11.57am |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
You previously posted "Christians are commanded not to kill. To do so is morally indefensible in any circumstances." Christianity is hardly that black or white. There are the Commandments and the Deadly sins, yet there is also "an eye for an eye". I suspect true Christianity should not encompass the Old Testament, yet it does. However, that's a far more philosophical debate.
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| georgenorman 13 Jan 22 12.38pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Christianity is hardly that black or white. There are the Commandments and the Deadly sins, yet there is also "an eye for an eye". I suspect true Christianity should not encompass the Old Testament, yet it does. However, that's a far more philosophical debate. Agreed. Also many experts say that the original commandment 'Thou shalt not kill' is more acurately translated as 'Thou shalt not murder', which of course gives the commandment a very different meaning.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 13 Jan 22 12.54pm |
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The voters are really to blame for Johnson. With the huge majority they foolishly handed him, he can sail on ignoring the public who put him in office. Many people did not trust him yet voted for him, so they can hardly complain now. Labour 10 points ahead.
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cryrst  The garden of England 13 Jan 22 12.59pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The voters are really to blame for Johnson. With the huge majority they foolishly handed him, he can sail on ignoring the public who put him in office. Many people did not trust him yet voted for him, so they can hardly complain now. Labour 10 points ahead. So tory voters are fools?
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| croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 13 Jan 22 1.11pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
So tory voters are fools? Does the member for medway know where the reset switch is on a main boiler by any chance? Reset after water flow stopped, now topped up?
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| croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 13 Jan 22 1.14pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The voters are really to blame for Johnson. With the huge majority they foolishly handed him, he can sail on ignoring the public who put him in office. Many people did not trust him yet voted for him, so they can hardly complain now. Labour 10 points ahead. Tis true- i kind of want the working classes to reap what they voted for- trusting in Old Etonians- wealthy landowning folk from hundreds of years, this fuel inflation is going to bite hard- they should make people at foodbanks prove who they voted for before feeding them- they are keeping the working man down by the belief that Eton boy cares about them.
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| georgenorman 13 Jan 22 1.17pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The voters are really to blame for Johnson. With the huge majority they foolishly handed him, he can sail on ignoring the public who put him in office. Many people did not trust him yet voted for him, so they can hardly complain now. Labour 10 points ahead. The alternative was Comrade Corbyn. Now, the voters really would have been fools if they had put a crypto-communist in power.
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| croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 13 Jan 22 1.24pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
The alternative was Comrade Corbyn. Now, the voters really would have been fools if they had put a crypto-communist in power. He wouldn"t have nicked the £47 thousand million PPE money though-even if he wanted to- the scrutiny wouldn"t allow it- but bungle and his cronies will get away with it- oh well.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 13 Jan 22 1.29pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
So tory voters are fools? You can do something foolish without being a fool. You're obsessed with socialism; do you believe Labour are a socialist party? or the Democrats for that matter? To be clear; there is a huge position which exists between not supporting this corrupt government, and being a socialist - I'd suggest the majority of the country probably sit within that group now.
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