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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 27 Jan 22 11.25am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

You mean make it into the Premier League.

But I see the U18s and U23s leagues as independent standing in their own right.

In fact I am getting more out of watching them now than the PL.

And they play top opposition, the Liverpools etc.

And no VAR.

What's there not to like!


 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 27 Jan 22 12.01pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

I mentioned this before, a retired person I knew was teaching the Palace academy kids (homework club).

He tried to explain that education was really important as in the class 1 might possibly make it as a professional footballer. Of course the kids all believed that they are that one so didn't pay attention.

Whilst I think the academy football is great I do worry how many of those kids are sold a false promise and what damage does it do to the failures. Do they get good jobs?

I keep hearing posters say if we get 1 player coming through each year that they'd be happy but I'm not sure that's a realistic target.

I have no stats but my gut feel is that even at the best academies they are likely to only get 1 player every 3/4 years.*

*The big clubs are pinching the best young players from other academies and then passing them off as their own. I am not sure how you can measure success I would say if a player has been with a club from say 12 that counts but a player who comes from elsewhere at say 16 / 17 isn't really a product of their new club, but that's me.

Edited by Badger11 (27 Jan 2022 12.02pm)

 


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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 27 Jan 22 1.13pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Found this snippet & thought i'd slot it on this thread, as, if it comes to fruition, it is another indication to our youngsters, that opportunities do & will happen.

This is in regards to Jesrun Rak-Sakyi . . . [Link]

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 27 Jan 22 1.25pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by eagleman13

Found this snippet & thought i'd slot it on this thread, as, if it comes to fruition, it is another indication to our youngsters, that opportunities do & will happen.

This is in regards to Jesrun Rak-Sakyi . . . [Link]

Would be a good move for him, on loan of course.

 


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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag 27 Jan 22 1.43pm Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

I had hoped we'd see more of Jes in the first team this season, but the reality is with Olise, Ayew, Zaha, and Edouard all able to operate on the wings he faces some serious competition. A loan move to a club of Rangers stature would be great providing he actually plays. I'm surprised no Championship clubs have come in for him to be honest though.

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 27 Jan 22 4.55pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I mentioned this before, a retired person I knew was teaching the Palace academy kids (homework club).

He tried to explain that education was really important as in the class 1 might possibly make it as a professional footballer. Of course the kids all believed that they are that one so didn't pay attention.

Whilst I think the academy football is great I do worry how many of those kids are sold a false promise and what damage does it do to the failures. Do they get good jobs?

I keep hearing posters say if we get 1 player coming through each year that they'd be happy but I'm not sure that's a realistic target.

I have no stats but my gut feel is that even at the best academies they are likely to only get 1 player every 3/4 years.*

*The big clubs are pinching the best young players from other academies and then passing them off as their own. I am not sure how you can measure success I would say if a player has been with a club from say 12 that counts but a player who comes from elsewhere at say 16 / 17 isn't really a product of their new club, but that's me.

Edited by Badger11 (27 Jan 2022 12.02pm)

Chelsea have turned loads out in the last 3 or 4 years;

Mount
James
Hudson-Odoi
Tomori
Guehi
Abraham
Lamptey
Livramento
Broja
Gallagher
Gilmour
Christensen
Chalobah

As far as I know, most of them were there from kids, and all come through in the last few years.

It is possible!

 

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View Dubai Eagle's Profile Dubai Eagle Flag 27 Jan 22 5.15pm Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

I am not knocking them but they did kind of have to step it up for a period of time with that recruitment ban that they had in that season when they appointed Frank Lampard.


Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Chelsea have turned loads out in the last 3 or 4 years;

Mount
James
Hudson-Odoi
Tomori
Guehi
Abraham
Lamptey
Livramento
Broja
Gallagher
Gilmour
Christensen
Chalobah

As far as I know, most of them were there from kids, and all come through in the last few years.

It is possible!

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 27 Jan 22 5.23pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

I had hoped we'd see more of Jes in the first team this season, but the reality is with Olise, Ayew, Zaha, and Edouard all able to operate on the wings he faces some serious competition. A loan move to a club of Rangers stature would be great providing he actually plays. I'm surprised no Championship clubs have come in for him to be honest though.

100% this

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 27 Jan 22 5.32pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Dubai Eagle

I am not knocking them but they did kind of have to step it up for a period of time with that recruitment ban that they had in that season when they appointed Frank Lampard.


An academy isn't something you can 'step up' overnight really - you have to have been building the quality for years, which is what Chelsea have been doing.

Players as good as Mount and James would've found their way into the first team regardless of any recruitment bans - both of those are still regulars now, as are Chalobah, Hudson-Odoi and Christensen, and they've spent hundreds of millions since.

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 27 Jan 22 6.41pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by eagleman13

Found this snippet & thought i'd slot it on this thread, as, if it comes to fruition, it is another indication to our youngsters, that opportunities do & will happen.

This is in regards to Jesrun Rak-Sakyi . . . [Link]


With Diallo going to Rangers on loan from Manure, I'd be surprised if Rak-Sakyi goes to Rangers as well.

 

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