Anti Semitic attack in Stamford HIll

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BlueJay UK 29 Jan 22 12.56am
Originally posted by cryrst What if they called him a no good n****r. Inexcusable? Well really it makes little difference. I mean I'd certainly understand his anger and if he wanted to act on that or report it then that's for him, but it's still a physical escalation that shouldn't in any way escape accountability.
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BlueJay

UK 29 Jan 22 12.56am

Originally posted by cryrst

What if they called him a no good n****r. Inexcusable?

Well really it makes little difference. I mean I'd certainly understand his anger and if he wanted to act on that or report it then that's for him, but it's still a physical escalation that shouldn't in any way escape accountability.

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BlueJay UK 29 Jan 22 1.27am
Originally posted by HKOwen You entirely miss my point which is that Lammy has not condemned the attack as MP for the area. Whether he does so as a general condemnation of crime or as an anti semitic incident he should comment. Lammy had already condemned the attack as 'appalling' days ago and said 'the perpetrator of this despicable antisemitic attack deserves the full force of the law'. So he's already said precisely what you're criticising him for not saying.
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BlueJay

UK 29 Jan 22 1.27am

Originally posted by HKOwen

You entirely miss my point which is that Lammy has not condemned the attack as MP for the area. Whether he does so as a general condemnation of crime or as an anti semitic incident he should comment.

Lammy had already condemned the attack as 'appalling' days ago and said 'the perpetrator of this despicable antisemitic attack deserves the full force of the law'. So he's already said precisely what you're criticising him for not saying.

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Spiderman Horsham 29 Jan 22 8.21am
Originally posted by BlueJay Lammy had already condemned the attack as 'appalling' days ago and said 'the perpetrator of this despicable antisemitic attack deserves the full force of the law'. So he's already said precisely what you're criticising him for not saying. Quite right if he has. I tried Google to find his apology but was unable to find it
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Spiderman

Horsham 29 Jan 22 8.21am

Originally posted by BlueJay

Quite right if he has. I tried Google to find his apology but was unable to find it

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BlueJay UK 29 Jan 22 8.37am
Originally posted by Spiderman Quite right if he has. I tried Google to find his apology but was unable to find it Most certainly, disgusting behaviour. [Tweet Link] At least being that it's so cut and dry, the guy was quickly found and will have to answer to his behaviour.
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BlueJay

UK 29 Jan 22 8.37am

Originally posted by Spiderman

Quite right if he has. I tried Google to find his apology but was unable to find it

Most certainly, disgusting behaviour.

[Tweet Link]

At least being that it's so cut and dry, the guy was quickly found and will have to answer to his behaviour.

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Spiderman Horsham 29 Jan 22 8.58am
Originally posted by BlueJay Most certainly, disgusting behaviour. [Tweet Link] At least being that it's so cut and dry, the guy was quickly found and will have to answer to his behaviour. Thanks for this
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Spiderman

Horsham 29 Jan 22 8.58am

Originally posted by BlueJay

Most certainly, disgusting behaviour.

[Tweet Link]

At least being that it's so cut and dry, the guy was quickly found and will have to answer to his behaviour.

Thanks for this

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Badger11 Beckenham 29 Jan 22 9.50am
Unfortunately no sound, the assailant walks past and both men turn to look after him, why? I can only assume that he said something derogatory to them which caused them to turn around and look? Anyway they did nothing wrong so let's put that to bed that they provoked it. Hopefully the police can tear themselves away from monitoring hurt feelings on social media and get this b******. One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 29 Jan 22 9.50am

Unfortunately no sound, the assailant walks past and both men turn to look after him, why?

I can only assume that he said something derogatory to them which caused them to turn around and look?

Anyway they did nothing wrong so let's put that to bed that they provoked it.

Hopefully the police can tear themselves away from monitoring hurt feelings on social media and get this b******.

One more point

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Stirlingsays 29 Jan 22 9.59am
Originally posted by Badger11 Unfortunately no sound, the assailant walks past and both men turn to look after him, why? I can only assume that he said something derogatory to them which caused them to turn around and look? Anyway they did nothing wrong so let's put that to bed that they provoked it. Hopefully the police can tear themselves away from monitoring hurt feelings on social media and get this b******. Agreed. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

29 Jan 22 9.59am

Originally posted by Badger11

Unfortunately no sound, the assailant walks past and both men turn to look after him, why?

I can only assume that he said something derogatory to them which caused them to turn around and look?

Anyway they did nothing wrong so let's put that to bed that they provoked it.

Hopefully the police can tear themselves away from monitoring hurt feelings on social media and get this b******.

Agreed.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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HKOwen Hong Kong 29 Jan 22 11.04am
I had not seen the Lammy comments and retract my saying he had not condemned the attack Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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HKOwen

Hong Kong 29 Jan 22 11.04am

I had not seen the Lammy comments and retract my saying he had not condemned the attack

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Stirlingsays 29 Jan 22 11.19am
Lammy is a big endorser of the 'global village' concept. So while he quite correctly condemns this attack his politics are essentially what causes it and indeed its expansion. But in saying that Lammy is no different to any mainstream politician. He perhaps race baits a bit more than most of them but essentially he's a part of the political neo liberal consensus. The middle and higher classes don't....at the moment....have to live within areas where they feel any negatives from their 'global village' politics. And for the higher classes they will always be able to move (segregation by house price) and hence keep their hypocritical ideas clear of any realities....for example realities like higher crime, lower trust. They will tell you how to live while not having to deal with any of the problems. Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Jan 2022 11.23am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

29 Jan 22 11.19am

Lammy is a big endorser of the 'global village' concept. So while he quite correctly condemns this attack his politics are essentially what causes it and indeed its expansion.

But in saying that Lammy is no different to any mainstream politician. He perhaps race baits a bit more than most of them but essentially he's a part of the political neo liberal consensus.

The middle and higher classes don't....at the moment....have to live within areas where they feel any negatives from their 'global village' politics. And for the higher classes they will always be able to move (segregation by house price) and hence keep their hypocritical ideas clear of any realities....for example realities like higher crime, lower trust.

They will tell you how to live while not having to deal with any of the problems.

Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Jan 2022 11.23am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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BlueJay UK 29 Jan 22 2.58pm
Originally posted by HKOwen I had not seen the Lammy comments and retract my saying he had not condemned the attack No problem . There aren't enough hours in the the day to take in everything!
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BlueJay

UK 29 Jan 22 2.58pm

Originally posted by HKOwen

I had not seen the Lammy comments and retract my saying he had not condemned the attack

No problem . There aren't enough hours in the the day to take in everything!

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BlueJay UK 29 Jan 22 3.02pm
Originally posted by silvertop Oh global to the point that those involved are not wholly indigenous? Global village vs Goebbels village? Put a fixed, firm yet realistic limit on immigration each year and then dial down the fragile pant wetters of left and right who can't cope with either national identity or natural and inevitable change. Edited by BlueJay (29 Jan 2022 3.17pm)
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BlueJay

UK 29 Jan 22 3.02pm

Originally posted by silvertop

Oh global to the point that those involved are not wholly indigenous?

Global village vs Goebbels village?

Put a fixed, firm yet realistic limit on immigration each year and then dial down the fragile pant wetters of left and right who can't cope with either national identity or natural and inevitable change.

Edited by BlueJay (29 Jan 2022 3.17pm)

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BlueJay UK 29 Jan 22 3.09pm
Originally posted by Badger11 Unfortunately no sound, the assailant walks past and both men turn to look after him, why? I can only assume that he said something derogatory to them which caused them to turn around and look? Anyway they did nothing wrong so let's put that to bed that they provoked it. Hopefully the police can tear themselves away from monitoring hurt feelings on social media and get this b******. Hard to know what may have been said really, but if it's confirmed that it was anti semitic insults prior to the assault, then he'll have done himself no favours when it comes to sentencing. Tut tut. Edited by BlueJay (29 Jan 2022 3.09pm)
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BlueJay

UK 29 Jan 22 3.09pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Unfortunately no sound, the assailant walks past and both men turn to look after him, why?

I can only assume that he said something derogatory to them which caused them to turn around and look?

Anyway they did nothing wrong so let's put that to bed that they provoked it.

Hopefully the police can tear themselves away from monitoring hurt feelings on social media and get this b******.

Hard to know what may have been said really, but if it's confirmed that it was anti semitic insults prior to the assault, then he'll have done himself no favours when it comes to sentencing. Tut tut.

Edited by BlueJay (29 Jan 2022 3.09pm)

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