Kurt Zouma

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BlueJay UK 09 Feb 22 1.01am
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle He’s playing tonight. As the police have said they aren’t going to prosecute we can only assume he didn’t say anything nasty while kicking his cat around the room. Gross
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BlueJay

UK 09 Feb 22 1.01am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

He’s playing tonight. As the police have said they aren’t going to prosecute we can only assume he didn’t say anything nasty while kicking his cat around the room.

Gross

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BlueJay UK 09 Feb 22 1.02am
Originally posted by georgenorman I see that Zouma has said “The cats are loved and cherished by our entire family". From what I've seen, I would say he has lost that loving feline. By the looks of his behaviour they are loved and cherished on a plate.
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BlueJay

UK 09 Feb 22 1.02am

Originally posted by georgenorman

I see that Zouma has said “The cats are loved and cherished by our entire family". From what I've seen, I would say he has lost that loving feline.

By the looks of his behaviour they are loved and cherished on a plate.

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Badger11 Beckenham 09 Feb 22 7.45am
West Ham fans last night phoning in on the radio to defend his selection typical quote "why should the club suffer"? Well that can be said of anybody who does something wrong outside of work hours, I expect the BBC could claim that they should not be punished for Jimmy Saville. Any high profile employee has a responsibility not to tarnish the name of their employer and there is normally a clause in their contract I think David Moyes was wrong to select him and then even wronger to pass the buck to his p*** merchant owners. Scummy West Ham no class. Edited by Badger11 (09 Feb 2022 7.45am) One more point
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Beckenham 09 Feb 22 7.45am

West Ham fans last night phoning in on the radio to defend his selection typical quote "why should the club suffer"?

Well that can be said of anybody who does something wrong outside of work hours, I expect the BBC could claim that they should not be punished for Jimmy Saville.

Any high profile employee has a responsibility not to tarnish the name of their employer and there is normally a clause in their contract I think David Moyes was wrong to select him and then even wronger to pass the buck to his p*** merchant owners.

Scummy West Ham no class.

Edited by Badger11 (09 Feb 2022 7.45am)

One more point

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Tickled pink Cornwall 09 Feb 22 8.23am
Originally posted by Fatherken Surely the RSPCA and police should be involved . Cruelty to animals is an offence by law . If people are worried about cruelty to animals the last thing they should be concerned about is a cat, estimates are that cats in the UK catch up to 100 million creatures over spring and summer, of which 27 million are birds ..did Kurt Zouma's cat die?
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Tickled pink

Cornwall 09 Feb 22 8.23am

Originally posted by Fatherken

Surely the RSPCA and police should be involved .
Cruelty to animals is an offence by law .

If people are worried about cruelty to animals the last thing they should be concerned about is a cat, estimates are that cats in the UK catch up to 100 million creatures over spring and summer, of which 27 million are birds ..did Kurt Zouma's cat die?

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georgenorman 09 Feb 22 8.46am
Originally posted by Tickled pink If people are worried about cruelty to animals the last thing they should be concerned about is a cat, estimates are that cats in the UK catch up to 100 million creatures over spring and summer, of which 27 million are birds ..did Kurt Zouma's cat die? Are you suggesting that Zouma's moral compass is akin to a cat's?
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georgenorman

09 Feb 22 8.46am

Originally posted by Tickled pink

Are you suggesting that Zouma's moral compass is akin to a cat's?

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Tickled pink Cornwall 09 Feb 22 8.51am
Originally posted by sprites Question: how many of you slating Zouma eat meat? I agree what he did was abhorrent and inexcusable. But to be honest, it's nothing compared to the torture cows/pigs/chickens go through for nothing more than our eating pleasure. So if you're getting stuck into Zouma and still condoning the cruelty to those animals...I question the integrity. In saying that, I agree he needs punishment. Horrible. For any human to deliberately cause harm to any creature for pleasure is quite obviously wrong and needs investigating because these actions involve empathy and the lack of it, creatures facing slaughter for food is something altogether different, humanising animals before and during slaughter enables us to be in their position, I wonder what a crocodile thinks.
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Tickled pink

Cornwall 09 Feb 22 8.51am

Originally posted by sprites

Question: how many of you slating Zouma eat meat?

I agree what he did was abhorrent and inexcusable. But to be honest, it's nothing compared to the torture cows/pigs/chickens go through for nothing more than our eating pleasure.

So if you're getting stuck into Zouma and still condoning the cruelty to those animals...I question the integrity.

In saying that, I agree he needs punishment. Horrible.

For any human to deliberately cause harm to any creature for pleasure is quite obviously wrong and needs investigating because these actions involve empathy and the lack of it, creatures facing slaughter for food is something altogether different, humanising animals before and during slaughter enables us to be in their position, I wonder what a crocodile thinks.

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becky over the moon 09 Feb 22 8.54am
Originally posted by Badger11 West Ham fans last night phoning in on the radio to defend his selection typical quote "why should the club suffer"? Well that can be said of anybody who does something wrong outside of work hours, I expect the BBC could claim that they should not be punished for Jimmy Saville. Any high profile employee has a responsibility not to tarnish the name of their employer and there is normally a clause in their contract I think David Moyes was wrong to select him and then even wronger to pass the buck to his p*** merchant owners. Scummy West Ham no class. Edited by Badger11 (09 Feb 2022 7.45am) An amusing note on Twitter last night - apparently, when Zouma was brought down rather heavily, the crowd were chanting: "Know how the cat felt, so now you know how the cat felt" I have no doubt this will be repeated at other grounds for some time to come..... A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers
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becky

over the moon 09 Feb 22 8.54am

Originally posted by Badger11

West Ham fans last night phoning in on the radio to defend his selection typical quote "why should the club suffer"?

Well that can be said of anybody who does something wrong outside of work hours, I expect the BBC could claim that they should not be punished for Jimmy Saville.

Scummy West Ham no class.

Edited by Badger11 (09 Feb 2022 7.45am)

An amusing note on Twitter last night - apparently, when Zouma was brought down rather heavily, the crowd were chanting:
"Know how the cat felt,
so now you know how the cat felt"

I have no doubt this will be repeated at other grounds for some time to come.....

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

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Tickled pink Cornwall 09 Feb 22 9.10am
Originally posted by georgenorman Are you suggesting that Zouma's moral compass is akin to a cat's? If it is he can't help it, cats are natural predators and it is in their DNA to hunt and kill for food, cats do not kill for fun ..when they bring live prey into your home they do so because it's in their DNA to teach their offspring how to kill for food, they are not bringing creatures into the house to play with. So it is quite possible that Zouma was teaching his younger brother how to kick a football.
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Tickled pink

Cornwall 09 Feb 22 9.10am

Originally posted by georgenorman

Are you suggesting that Zouma's moral compass is akin to a cat's?

If it is he can't help it, cats are natural predators and it is in their DNA to hunt and kill for food, cats do not kill for fun ..when they bring live prey into your home they do so because it's in their DNA to teach their offspring how to kill for food, they are not bringing creatures into the house to play with. So it is quite possible that Zouma was teaching his younger brother how to kick a football.

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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 09 Feb 22 9.19am
In my opinion, the correct thing to do was to drop Zouma from last nights game. That would have sent the message out that his behavior is unacceptable and won't be tolerated. By doing so, the issue could start to be put to bed. Instead his selection has added fuel to the fire and ensured that the matter won't go away. Much as what he has done sickens me, I don't think sacking him is a realistic outcome. Professional sport, football in particular, plays fast and loose with any moral codes. But removal of any pets, a banning order preventing him from owning pets for a period of time and a substantial donation to the RSPCA works for me. Old, Ungifted and White
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NEILLO

Shoreham-by-Sea 09 Feb 22 9.19am

In my opinion, the correct thing to do was to drop Zouma from last nights game.

That would have sent the message out that his behavior is unacceptable and won't be tolerated.

By doing so, the issue could start to be put to bed.

Instead his selection has added fuel to the fire and ensured that the matter won't go away.

Much as what he has done sickens me, I don't think sacking him is a realistic outcome. Professional sport, football in particular, plays fast and loose with any moral codes.

But removal of any pets, a banning order preventing him from owning pets for a period of time and a substantial donation to the RSPCA works for me.

Old, Ungifted and White

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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 09 Feb 22 9.34am
Originally posted by sprites Question: how many of you slating Zouma eat meat? I agree what he did was abhorrent and inexcusable. But to be honest, it's nothing compared to the torture cows/pigs/chickens go through for nothing more than our eating pleasure. So if you're getting stuck into Zouma and still condoning the cruelty to those animals...I question the integrity. In saying that, I agree he needs punishment. Horrible. I eat 'plant-based' meat . . . Steak Steak is from a cow, cows eat grass, grass is a plant, therefore my steak is plant based. I'm a blind man, i'm a blind man, now my room is cold, When a blind man cries, Lord, he feels it from his soul. [Link]
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On The Road To Hell & Alicante 09 Feb 22 9.34am

Originally posted by sprites

Question: how many of you slating Zouma eat meat?

I agree what he did was abhorrent and inexcusable. But to be honest, it's nothing compared to the torture cows/pigs/chickens go through for nothing more than our eating pleasure.

So if you're getting stuck into Zouma and still condoning the cruelty to those animals...I question the integrity.

In saying that, I agree he needs punishment. Horrible.

I eat 'plant-based' meat . . . Steak

Steak is from a cow, cows eat grass, grass is a plant, therefore my steak is plant based.

I'm a blind man, i'm a blind man, now my room is cold,
When a blind man cries, Lord, he feels it from his soul.
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Frickin Saweet South Cronx 09 Feb 22 9.46am
so he's made a token apology and is apparently 'deeply sorry'. He's only sorry that he got caught. His treatment of the cat in the video was not reactionary or a lash out, he clearly has no regard for cats. Booting them in front of his kids will make them think it's ok. They should take them away from him and ban him from owning pets. That's about all they can do I'd have thought, and now everyone knows he's a muppet with a wally for a brother.
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so he's made a token apology and is apparently 'deeply sorry'. He's only sorry that he got caught. His treatment of the cat in the video was not reactionary or a lash out, he clearly has no regard for cats. Booting them in front of his kids will make them think it's ok. They should take them away from him and ban him from owning pets. That's about all they can do I'd have thought, and now everyone knows he's a muppet with a wally for a brother.

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mezzer Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 09 Feb 22 10.07am
Originally posted by NEILLO In my opinion, the correct thing to do was to drop Zouma from last nights game. That would have sent the message out that his behavior is unacceptable and won't be tolerated. By doing so, the issue could start to be put to bed. Instead his selection has added fuel to the fire and ensured that the matter won't go away. Much as what he has done sickens me, I don't think sacking him is a realistic outcome. Professional sport, football in particular, plays fast and loose with any moral codes. But removal of any pets, a banning order preventing him from owning pets for a period of time and a substantial donation to the RSPCA works for me. Don't often disagree with you Neil, but I do on this point. Perfect opportunity missed for Karen Brady, with that look of hers that gives the impression that she's sucking on a particularly unpleasantly smelling wasp, to lean across the boardroom desk, point her finger and in her best Alan Sugar voice say "You're Fired". Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.
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mezzer

Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 09 Feb 22 10.07am

Originally posted by NEILLO

In my opinion, the correct thing to do was to drop Zouma from last nights game.

That would have sent the message out that his behavior is unacceptable and won't be tolerated.

By doing so, the issue could start to be put to bed.

Instead his selection has added fuel to the fire and ensured that the matter won't go away.

Much as what he has done sickens me, I don't think sacking him is a realistic outcome. Professional sport, football in particular, plays fast and loose with any moral codes.

But removal of any pets, a banning order preventing him from owning pets for a period of time and a substantial donation to the RSPCA works for me.

Don't often disagree with you Neil, but I do on this point. Perfect opportunity missed for Karen Brady, with that look of hers that gives the impression that she's sucking on a particularly unpleasantly smelling wasp, to lean across the boardroom desk, point her finger and in her best Alan Sugar voice say "You're Fired".

Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

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