As a slight aside, UEFAhave confirmed who is reffing the final on sunday for the lasses . . . UEFA have confirmed that Kateryna Monzul is set to referee Sunday's Euro 2022 final at Wembley.

She becomes the first Ukrainian to take charge of the showpiece, having officiated three games at the tournament already.

Who'd have thunked that would happen with such an upright law-abiding un-biased major company like them. Just as good as the bbc now(imo)

Edited by eagleman13 (29 Jul 2022 3.01pm)

It was earlier implied in the thread that as the Russians had invaded that concern for their treatment was less relevant than concern for the Ukrainians.

Also, when I highlighted war crimes against Russians it was notable just how little concern there was.

I think it's valid to condemn all of these abuses. No one should have a side when any of this happens.

Not that I think being overly wedded to a side in this conflict makes that much sense.

"Ukrainians are entitled to mistreat Russian POW's" is what was said. That I expect is incorrect. Adjusting the statement to "less relevant" is not the same, but in answer to that..

if someone breaks into a home and rapes or kills the occupants, I have a little less concern for their wellfare over those they have chosen to abuse. Placed upon this situation that is not exclusively one side, but outside of extreme partisanship most of the aggression, and the invasion itself is coming from the Russian side and there are no clear lines of how much of the above they are willing and happy to inflict.

"Ukrainians are entitled to mistreat Russian POW's" is what was said. That I expect is incorrect. Adjusting the statement to "less relevant" is not the same, but in answer to that..

if someone breaks into a home and rapes or kills the occupants, I have a little less concern for their wellfare over those they have chosen to abuse. Placed upon this situation that is not exclusively one side, but outside of extreme partisanship most of the aggression, and the invasion itself is coming from the Russian side and there are no clear lines of how much of the above they are willing and happy to inflict.

You have shown yourself to be in agreement with that banned poster's viewpoint....Funny how you joined a matter of days after that poster was banned.

Regardless, no, this is a war where the Geneva convention holds. This is long standing and clear 'international' law.

There is no difference in treatment for different Pows dependent upon whether you agree with their government or not.

A war crime is a war crime, not buts or whataboutery.

I'm sorry that for you at least this seems to require them.

Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Jul 2022 4.33pm)

Ukraine hasn’t committed any war crimes and you’ll be backing down Stirly

Edited by Vincehair (29 Jul 2022 5.37pm)