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  Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 13 Feb 22 9.00pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
So do you not think that's available now? It might surprise you, and certainly will a few others here, that I completely agree with this. Is it available now? We are getting there, but there are some who would like to reverse the trend.
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| Matov 13 Feb 22 9.02pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Jeremy Corbyn: 'UK wrong to be prepared to get involved in war in Ukraine'. Keir Starmer: 'Under my leadership, Labour’s commitment to Nato is unshakable'. It's also unquestioning and wrong, another UK warmonger - its fortunate we cannot actually do anything anymore. Starmer is bought and paid for. That much is now absolutely definite. There is zero appetite for any kind of British involvement in a war in Ukraine so Starmer can only be appealing to the paymasters who no doubt got him to scupper Labours election chances with the second referendum insanity, promoted him into the leadership and now pull his strings.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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| Spiderman Horsham 13 Feb 22 9.06pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Events always disturb the best of intentions, especially things like deep recessions caused by a banking crisis. I don't suppose the current mob intended to incur quite the level they have when they won in 2019! I mentioned an appreciation of the need to run a balanced budget, and that's true:- Maybe having to fund us getting through an unpredictable pandemic hasn’t helped? Edited by Spiderman (13 Feb 2022 9.08pm)
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| Stirlingsays 13 Feb 22 9.39pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
Starmer is bought and paid for. That much is now absolutely definite. There is zero appetite for any kind of British involvement in a war in Ukraine so Starmer can only be appealing to the paymasters who no doubt got him to scupper Labours election chances with the second referendum insanity, promoted him into the leadership and now pull his strings. That's probably the main weakness of representative democracy. Once the number one priority isn't to represent your members/electorate but instead what you think....well, then what you think can have a price and donators can dictate it. Hence elites don't only get control via the international banks and global bodies restricting policies or enabling them by access, elites get a slice of control via the cheque book. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Feb 2022 9.39pm)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 13 Feb 22 9.47pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Maybe having to fund us getting through an unpredictable pandemic hasn’t helped? Edited by Spiderman (13 Feb 2022 9.08pm) That was the point I was making.
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| HeathMan Purley 13 Feb 22 10.00pm |
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What a lovely thought. Jeremy Corbyn a candidate for a different party. the Returning Officer saying I declare that Jeremy Corbyn, Monster Raving Looney Party, is duly elected.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 13 Feb 22 10.28pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
Starmer is bought and paid for. That much is now absolutely definite. There is zero appetite for any kind of British involvement in a war in Ukraine so Starmer can only be appealing to the paymasters who no doubt got him to scupper Labours election chances with the second referendum insanity, promoted him into the leadership and now pull his strings. That's the strength of our representative democracy. The number one priority of our representatives is to do what their experience, and the information they access from experts, informs them is best for their constituents and the country, without being diverted by the need first consult the voters, let alone be bound by their views. The electorate's job starts, and finishes, when they choose who will represent them. If things go badly wrong, they can recall them, in certain circumstances. General elections are the moment when those representatives need to convince us that what has been done is what we needed, and what is planned, is what we need. If it isn't, we change them. "Elites", international banks, global bodies and cheque books don't vote. We do. We have all the controls needed. Conspiracy theorists are best ignored, as they peddle lies to try to undermine our faith in our institutions.
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| Mapletree Croydon 13 Feb 22 11.31pm |
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Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer
Yep I read that too Matov. Pity they can't do something about his brother. Just as bad a character, if not worse. They seem a crazy pair. My neighbour used to meet with both of them, Starmer and others every second Tuesday. Said Jezza was barking, worse than his mad brother. Sir Keir was well liked and very down to earth.
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cryrst  The garden of England 14 Feb 22 5.55am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That's the strength of our representative democracy. The number one priority of our representatives is to do what their experience, and the information they access from experts, informs them is best for their constituents and the country, without being diverted by the need first consult the voters, let alone be bound by their views. The electorate's job starts, and finishes, when they choose who will represent them. If things go badly wrong, they can recall them, in certain circumstances. General elections are the moment when those representatives need to convince us that what has been done is what we needed, and what is planned, is what we need. If it isn't, we change them. "Elites", international banks, global bodies and cheque books don't vote. We do. We have all the controls needed. Conspiracy theorists are best ignored, as they peddle lies to try to undermine our faith in our institutions. It's like an itch you can't reach isn't it!
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| The Dolphin 14 Feb 22 10.08am |
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Looks like a bit of a war coming up in the Labour Party!
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 14 Feb 22 10.56am |
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Originally posted by cryrst
It's like an itch you can't reach isn't it! Not at all. Persistence and patience will always find a way. Itches are like conspiracy theories. They all need to be resolutely dealt with and then forgotten as the annoying little distractions they are.
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 14 Feb 22 12.28pm |
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the enemy within.
Eze Peasy at Anfield.... |
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