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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 02 Mar 22 8.11am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

The objective of course was to be in the hat for the next round and this was achieved but the performance against a Championship team left a great deal to be desired.

Anyone not knowing the teams would have difficulty in knowing which was the PL team.
A far from convincing display,no fluidity going forward,did not move the ball fast enough particularly in the 1st half and played a number of sideways and backwards passes.
The defending once again was abject on occasions and the goal we conceded was very poor with the goalscorer left in acres of space.

Through to the next round but a disappointing performance.

 

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View Davepalace707's Profile Davepalace707 Flag Northumberland 02 Mar 22 8.14am Send a Private Message to Davepalace707 Add Davepalace707 as a friend

Last nights game was as much about Stoke playing well as us playing badly. They had nothing to lose they got stuck in and played far more expansively than you would expect for a team in 15th in the championship. Look at Boro’s result last night. We won that’s all you have to do in a cup tie.

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 02 Mar 22 8.24am Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

The objective of course was to be in the hat for the next round and this was achieved but the performance against a Championship team left a great deal to be desired.

Anyone not knowing the teams would have difficulty in knowing which was the PL team.
A far from convincing display,no fluidity going forward,did not move the ball fast enough particularly in the 1st half and played a number of sideways and backwards passes.
The defending once again was abject on occasions and the goal we conceded was very poor with the goalscorer left in acres of space.

Through to the next round but a disappointing performance.

It was almost as bad as Spurs.

 

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View WJK1960's Profile WJK1960 Flag 02 Mar 22 8.43am Send a Private Message to WJK1960 Add WJK1960 as a friend

Clearly the weather conditions were not good, but there were several things wrong last night.

The formation did not look right, particularly on our left hand side. Was Zaha playing left wing or off Mateta ? It wasn't clear to me and the support given to Adaramola in terms of having an out ball was often limited.

It does seem to me that we are trying to move towards a more fluid style of football being less reliant on a target man. I assume that is the main reason Mateta is being given a decent run, and that in general Benteke is not playing. There was some evidence of this against Watford. But the team needs the players to do this. One of Gallaghers many qualities is that he is always trying to get on the front foot when getting the ball, looking to pass forward or running off the ball into space off Olise or Ayew. But when he is not playing we revert to sideways and backward passing that we saw yesterday and are then reliant on either a great pass from the centre backs or a bit of individual play from Olise or Zaha to free up some space. If that doesn't happen we become very sterile. Yesterday the players weren't able or willing to make the runs into space so we started playing target man football upto Mateta and this is just not his strength.
Hopefully we can make these changes but it does worry me that when Gallagher goes we wont have the personnel to play this more fluid football.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 02 Mar 22 8.47am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

The weather was horrible and we should just be glad we're through.

I remember Clinton Morrison on commentary a few years ago saying that he loved playing in those sort of conditions as the big defenders would be slipping and sliding all over the place

 

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View ripleyeagle's Profile ripleyeagle Flag Ripley Surrey 02 Mar 22 9.00am Send a Private Message to ripleyeagle Add ripleyeagle as a friend

Apart from our two centre backs,Conor Gallagher and Michael Olise the remainder who played last night are only championship standard.

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 02 Mar 22 9.07am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

It was a poor game played by two out of form sides in dreadful conditions.
The aim of the game was to win and we did and are in the next round which is great.
More worrying to me is that we didn't look like there was a game plan and if there was then the players didn't follow it.
PV was going beserk - for him - on the sidelines for the whole of the first half so something wasn't right.
We need to step up on Saturday to have even the remote chance of a draw.
We have a bench that we would have died for in years gone by but the performances on the field are not so good currently - stale and without invention.
On a high note I though that the new full back - Adaramola - looked very sharp and intelligent and with confidence will be a very good player indeed.

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 02 Mar 22 9.11am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Mateta has the worst first touch since I can't remember when

Did you never see Adi Akinbiyi ??

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 02 Mar 22 9.14am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by ripleyeagle

Apart from our two centre backs,Conor Gallagher and Michael Olise the remainder who played last night are only championship standard.

As I have stated before,I am not convinced with Anderson at all.Ball-playing central defender but is greatly wanting in the actual art of defending.I was not impressed with him at Fulham last season.
In general, our defending is woeful.

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 02 Mar 22 9.24am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

The other day I questioned whether this group of players had it in them to ' win ugly '. Got my answer last night !

The starting eleven was interesting and maybe gave us an insight as to where Olise could end up playing as he progresses. However we didn't look a cohesive unit against a determined, well organised opponent.

I thought Tayo did well at left back, especially as it appeared that Wilf was in a strop right from the start, and rarely helped him out when he needed an outlet. If he keeps developing he can provide real competition for Mitchell.

The enigmas that is Benteke showed better touched in his 5 minute cameo than Mateta did in the previous 85/90.

Bottom line - we're through despite a below par performance

 


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View Fatherken's Profile Fatherken Flag 02 Mar 22 9.27am Send a Private Message to Fatherken Add Fatherken as a friend

that was the worst game I have seen in many a year .
I should have known it would be bad from the start .
Could only get a seat in the old stand , horrible weather , a lack of signage going in entrance 11/12 to block E and stewards not knowing how to get there either . Some s**t light show before the game [ what was that all about ? ]
After all that , a team that seemed that they did not want to be there .
But at least we are into the next round .

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 02 Mar 22 9.28am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

The other day I questioned whether this group of players had it in them to ' win ugly '. Got my answer last night !

The starting eleven was interesting and maybe gave us an insight as to where Olise could end up playing as he progresses. However we didn't look a cohesive unit against a determined, well organised opponent.

I thought Tayo did well at left back, especially as it appeared that Wilf was in a strop right from the start, and rarely helped him out when he needed an outlet. If he keeps developing he can provide real competition for Mitchell.

The enigmas that is Benteke showed better touched in his 5 minute cameo than Mateta did in the previous 85/90.

Bottom line - we're through despite a below par performance

I never expected a rout, in actual fact I predicted 1-0 but I did expect us to more dominant against a Stoke side with 1 win in their previous 8 league games.
There was nothing between the teams and our defensive woes continued.

 

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