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View monkey's Profile monkey Flag Sittingbourne,Kent 03 Mar 22 10.05am Send a Private Message to monkey Add monkey as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Peaks and troughs Willo, peaks and troughs!

It’s that famous palace rollercoaster

 


Made in Bromley

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 03 Mar 22 10.06am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by monkey

and you call me ignorant pot, kettle, black I think

Do YOU actually watch the games? Eze WAS good last season, but so far, for understandable reasons, he’s been a fraction of the player since returning from injury, hence his limited appearances in the team

But when he did play he played on the left, that is a fact, Wilf played up front

 


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View crvenaeagle's Profile crvenaeagle Flag 03 Mar 22 10.11am Send a Private Message to crvenaeagle Add crvenaeagle as a friend

Please, okay, we're sorry, we'll take Willo back, just get rid of Lanzo-Ad.

 

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View palace99's Profile palace99 Flag New Mills 03 Mar 22 10.20am Send a Private Message to palace99 Add palace99 as a friend

I am not trying to have a pop at PV or the progress the team has made this year but when people state we are 11th and in the Q/F of the FA Cup, whilst factually correct, it also papers over a number of potential cracks.

Yes we are 11th but we have played more games than almost every team in the division, so our position is a little unrealistic. The 2 below us are on the same points with games in hand, so a position of 13th is more realistic. Still okay, but not great.

FA Cup - yes it is great to be in the last 8 but we have played 3 teams from lower leagues. All 3 were very winnable. Both Millwall and Stoke gave us hard games.

So in terms of 'concrete' progress i think the jury is still out. Hopefully, this is just stating the obvious

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 03 Mar 22 10.20am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by crvenaeagle

Please, okay, we're sorry, we'll take Willo back, just get rid of Lanzo-Ad.

You fool!! Willo never left

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 03 Mar 22 11.25am Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

Originally posted by cardiff eagle

My concern about the transition is that normally the performances we’re getting now would be at the beginning of the transition and those we got back in October (I think) would be the ones we’re getting now. So it seems like in a way we’re going backwards.

That coupled with bizarre team selections and subs have left me a bit concerned going forward. However, it is undoubtedly the most I’ve enjoyed palace in a long time so something is obviously going right too!

Its a fair concern

I guess the tricky thing is that football is a not an exact science - form, fitness, opponents all make it hard to see progress at time.

Coupled with the fact that there are only 2 teams in the league that look great every week. Arse, Spurs, Chelsea, WH, still blow hot and cold. So I'm sure every fan sits there and wonders how they can beat City one week and lose to Burley the next (Spurs).

It might be better to see this as year 1 of a transition. Lets say the yr1 objective was to increase ball retention by 10-15%

 

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View Davepalace707's Profile Davepalace707 Flag Northumberland 03 Mar 22 11.44am Send a Private Message to Davepalace707 Add Davepalace707 as a friend

Originally posted by MrRobbo

Its a fair concern

I guess the tricky thing is that football is a not an exact science - form, fitness, opponents all make it hard to see progress at time.

Coupled with the fact that there are only 2 teams in the league that look great every week. Arse, Spurs, Chelsea, WH, still blow hot and cold. So I'm sure every fan sits there and wonders how they can beat City one week and lose to Burley the next (Spurs).

It might be better to see this as year 1 of a transition. Lets say the yr1 objective was to increase ball retention by 10-15%

I think that’s right. And the standard of the poorest teams is better than the equivalent a year ago, there aren’t many easy games, most teams - aside from the odd crap patch eg Leeds now - are generally tough to break down

 

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View rossboss29's Profile rossboss29 Flag Portsmouth 03 Mar 22 11.51am Send a Private Message to rossboss29 Add rossboss29 as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

I find it very questionable the way some of our supposedly "key" players are being used particularly Eze and Edouard, i assume PV doesn't rate him at all even though he bought him, and Eze before his injury was outstanding playing on the left side and cutting in, our quality attacking players are Wilf, Olise, Eze and Gallagher and they should all be used in our first 11
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RB CD CD LB
DM DM
Ol GAL EZ
WILF
This should be the starting 11 every game until the end of the Season,(injuries Permitting) and Rak-Sakyi coming off the bench to get integrated in the first 11.
When i think of the dross Roy had last season and the incomings since PV arrived i think 11th is just about as bad as we could have done at this stage of the season, Maybe PV has done his job and attracted the players and now we need a manager


Eduoard is most effective for us as a left winger and he isn’t going to displace zaha any time soon. Through the middle he is not as good as Benteke

 

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View spartakev2's Profile spartakev2 Flag Anerley 03 Mar 22 11.56am Send a Private Message to spartakev2 Add spartakev2 as a friend

I think the problem is that the start of the season, Gallagher was on fire, winning games almost on his own. Mecca was also Immense at the start. Recently Gallagher hasn't been at his best, coinciding with Maccas injury. Hope with him back Gallagher can push further forward and we can start pressing high up the pitch again.
I have 2 concerns, I just don't get why PV insists on playing Schlupp in centre midfield. He never plays well there. I just don't get it.
My biggest concern is our forwards. We is not a center forward and shouldn't be played there. Mateta in my opinion is not premiership standard. He's started chasing around and pressing people which seems to be keeping him in the side. Edouard has had is best games for us on the left, but now we back he's not going to start there. We'll never know if he'll make it as a CF unless he's given a run in the team, which PV seems reluctant to do. Of them all, and I probably get shot down gor saying this, benteke seems the best fit. Playing the way we do, we need someone to jd the ball up. Also with olise starting regularly, you'd think someone with bentekes heading ability would have a field day. But he seems to have dropped right down the pecking order.

 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 03 Mar 22 12.01pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

How could anyone want to get rid of me. outrageous

 


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View redshift's Profile redshift Flag Toronto 03 Mar 22 4.25pm Send a Private Message to redshift Add redshift as a friend

Originally posted by Bexley Eagle

Ward maybe a little slow these days but is clearly a better right back than Clyne. Neither is the long term solution however.

Just to put my 2 cents in on this. Ward is the better back but with him in the formation you now have no speed there except for Mitchell. All of Ward, Andersen and Guehi are slow so if they press up the field they can get caught out easily.
Clyne is much faster so I assume PV is gambling that having 2 speedy guys on the back line is better than just the one. At least both wings are covered.
I agree we need an upgrade at the position too. Ward can't play forever.

 


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View Qwijibo's Profile Qwijibo Flag Bournemouth 03 Mar 22 11.21pm Send a Private Message to Qwijibo Add Qwijibo as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Indeed! Only my own opinion but the pendulum of a football fans mentality does seem to swing from one extreme to another. I have been guilty of this many a time over the years and have admittedly struggled with arresting this, have been working on it however!

Yep, same. I don't think I actually thought we would go down, but I was prepared for a long, long season, with a lot of doubts along the way, before ultimately finishing somewhere around 16th/17th. So to (hopefully) not be there, is great.

I'm still hopeful we can make top ten. Definitely an outside bet, but not outrageous.

Other slightly obscure targets that would really show progress:

Winning more than we lose
Positive goal difference

Both are achievable, and both would likely see us top ten.

 

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