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View rikz's Profile rikz Flag Croydon 24 Mar 22 6.05pm Send a Private Message to rikz Add rikz as a friend

Originally posted by sydtheeagle

I agree. But...

(This is not a criticism of what you wrote)

...We have to end this mentality of settling for less than we're worth. We HAVE had a great season, no doubt about it. BUT with the players we now have (young, talented, and energetic), the style of football we're playing, the manager that's leading us, owners who genuinely support the club, and a fan base that's among the best in the country someone needs to say 11th/12th place and a good cup run is NOT ENOUGH.

We need to get into the top ten because right now, we BELONG there. And it shouldn't be a one-off achievement; the top ten would reflect our status as, reasonably right now, one of the top ten clubs in the PL. And we need to win something; anything, because over a century has been far too long for a club of our stature to have never won a major trophy at all. Ipswich has. Southampton has. Coventry has. Leicester has. Nottingham Forest has. We belong in, at least, that tier of clubs. And we need to get into Europe, too, even if it's the Conference League.

So with where we are right now, I'm NOT prepared to settle for less than we're worth. We've been on the edge of this sort of success before (1980, 1990) and failed to press on and go over the top. Not this time, please. It's been a brilliant season, yes, but it's NOT ENOUGH yet. We need to show some ambition for ourselves, and act like we belong. Let's make this year the start of a platform for the sustained success we've earned and deserve. Not the end of the journey of improvement, but just the beginning of being what CPFC ought to be.

We don't have a fan base among the best in the country, our fan base is actually pretty poor considering we are in a city of 10 million people, we had an average attendance of 18k in the championship, we wouldn't even be in the top half of the championship in terms of support but having this sustained relative success, will continue to bring in more local support, kids that would have picked Chelsea, arsenal or Tottenham will be more likely to support us. Hopefully we can look at reaching our potential but still a few years off and our stadium being redeveloped is massively important. How do we attract local youngsters if they can't even get tickets ?

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag London 25 Mar 22 12.58am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Originally posted by Omph

Following the news wire below can be misleading!

Pretty much all the Olise and Mitchell stories are just one story regurgitated by other outlets. Personally doubt anyone will be in for Olise this time around anyway. A youthful wide player is exactly what Arsenal are not looking for - they have trouble fitting in the 3 they have already. He's also at that stage where he's unlikely to go anywhere he isn't going to get football. Much the same applies to the Mitchell story. He's an increasingly tidy player but would be second choice at any club that outranked us in the market.

The time may come for both of them - and Guehi and Eze - a year or so down the line but having trawled other clubs forums there are very very few references to them right now.

Mitchell at the back Olise in attack. They had better not be going now.
Eze started stirring us all up again v Everton.
He has extraordinary talent. He started to look like Super Pat is working his magic on him.
Wilf is back on it showing why he is just too good for the opposition.
Vieira is really doing things for us that are special.
We are going places.

 

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 25 Mar 22 7.25am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Mitchell at the back Olise in attack. They had better not be going now.
Eze started stirring us all up again v Everton.
He has extraordinary talent. He started to look like Super Pat is working his magic on him.
Wilf is back on it showing why he is just too good for the opposition.
Vieira is really doing things for us that are special.
We are going places.

For a moment there, I thought you'd taken the 'Pause for Reflection' theme and written a Palace poem.

Actually, reading your whole post, it's far better than many REAL poems I've had the misfortune to encounter!

 


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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 25 Mar 22 7.59am Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by sydtheeagle

I agree. But...

(This is not a criticism of what you wrote)

...We have to end this mentality of settling for less than we're worth. We HAVE had a great season, no doubt about it. BUT with the players we now have (young, talented, and energetic), the style of football we're playing, the manager that's leading us, owners who genuinely support the club, and a fan base that's among the best in the country someone needs to say 11th/12th place and a good cup run is NOT ENOUGH.

We need to get into the top ten because right now, we BELONG there. And it shouldn't be a one-off achievement; the top ten would reflect our status as, reasonably right now, one of the top ten clubs in the PL. And we need to win something; anything, because over a century has been far too long for a club of our stature to have never won a major trophy at all. Ipswich has. Southampton has. Coventry has. Leicester has. Nottingham Forest has. We belong in, at least, that tier of clubs. And we need to get into Europe, too, even if it's the Conference League.

So with where we are right now, I'm NOT prepared to settle for less than we're worth. We've been on the edge of this sort of success before (1980, 1990) and failed to press on and go over the top. Not this time, please. It's been a brilliant season, yes, but it's NOT ENOUGH yet. We need to show some ambition for ourselves, and act like we belong. Let's make this year the start of a platform for the sustained success we've earned and deserve. Not the end of the journey of improvement, but just the beginning of being what CPFC ought to be.

When they won them were the opposition as strong as Liverpool, Manchester City and Chelsea are now I wonder

 

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View monkey's Profile monkey Flag Sittingbourne,Kent 25 Mar 22 9.01am Send a Private Message to monkey Add monkey as a friend

Originally posted by Tickled pink

When they won them were the opposition as strong as Liverpool, Manchester City and Chelsea are now I wonder

Probably not, but Wigan did beat Man.City a few years ago

 


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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 25 Mar 22 9.18am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by Tickled pink

When they won them were the opposition as strong as Liverpool, Manchester City and Chelsea are now I wonder

Well Chelsea were pretty good last year (they even won the 'Champions' League) when Leicester won the FA Cup Final against them.

 


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Originally posted by Tickled pink

When they won them were the opposition as strong as Liverpool, Manchester City and Chelsea are now I wonder

Do we have to be reminded of the mighty 3rd division side that Southampton beat in their semi-final on their way to victory!

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 29 Mar 22 10.13am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

I've seen too many False Dawns at Palace down the years to get too carried away.

Pausing to reflect on this season then - well, we have put some of the building blocks in place to enable the club to move forwards.

* Young, outstanding talent signed in Olise and Guehi
* The development of Tyrick Mitchell
* The new Academy ( on that subject, when's my tour going to happen ! )
* A new, pro active investor in John Textor

All real positives that give us a platform to move into the top half of the league.

To get to this stage of what I agree is a Transitional season, one win away from almost certain safety in the league( being ultra cautious ) and a FA Cup semi final to look forward to, are worthy achievements.

Can we do better ? Yes, if we maximise the opportunities that I have outlined. The proof will be in the doing !

 


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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 29 Mar 22 10.49am Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

I've seen too many False Dawns at Palace down the years to get too carried away.

Pausing to reflect on this season then - well, we have put some of the building blocks in place to enable the club to move forwards.

* Young, outstanding talent signed in Olise and Guehi
* The development of Tyrick Mitchell
* The new Academy ( on that subject, when's my tour going to happen ! )
* A new, pro active investor in John Textor

All real positives that give us a platform to move into the top half of the league.

To get to this stage of what I agree is a Transitional season, one win away from almost certain safety in the league( being ultra cautious ) and a FA Cup semi final to look forward to, are worthy achievements.

Can we do better ? Yes, if we maximise the opportunities that I have outlined. The proof will be in the doing !

Agree with all you've said NEILLO, but I think we should also recognise the terrific contribution made to our team's development by the manager.

Newly appointed pre-season, Patrick was a surprise to most of us, but he and his team have done an amazing job in changing our playing style. If it wasn't for him we wouldn't have the pleasure of watching the likes of Olise and Guehi playing for our club.

 


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View johnmcormick8's Profile johnmcormick8 Flag Brundish 29 Mar 22 10.07pm Send a Private Message to johnmcormick8 Add johnmcormick8 as a friend

bloody well right mate

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

The issue for me, as we pause to reflect, is that our club has become very noticeable in the media. From being one of the makeweights in the Premier League, we have become high profile. Even Hartlepool know about us now!

Our manager is now talked about in glowing terms, rightly so, but a year ago I doubt any of us considered him to be our next manager. The issue is that, because he has done so well in transforming the way we play and guiding our young talent, he is going to be on the radar of clubs looking for a new boss. He seems to be enjoying his journey with Palace, but we need to hang on to him.

The same goes for our players. The Mail today ran a piece about the Crystal Palace talent factory. Dougie and his team have done a remarkable job in bringing in fresh, young talent. The likes of Mitchell, Guehi and, of course, Gallagher on loan. These three are getting the film star treatment now they have been selected to play for England. Eze will be next. If they weren't already in the sights of scouts here and abroad they will be now. We know Gallagher will return to Chelsea, but we need to keep and develop the exciting players that we now so enjoy watching. It's been said elsewhere that we don't want to do a Southampton and sell off our best players just when we're getting the most out of them.

So, whilst it's great to see our club earning well deserved recognition, we don't want to see it work against us. I agree with Syd above. We are good enough now to take on the big boys and we need to be recognised as belonging to the big boy's band so our manager and players will want to stay and not do what Wilf thought he wanted when he said he was keen to join a big club like Everton.

Let's hope the present set up, with Mr Parish at the helm, continues to develop and flourish. And that includes a new stadium and a decent pitch!

 

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